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Chris Hayes Had the Best Day on Social Media When Tucker Carlson Attacked Him

Chris Hayes Had the Best Day on Social Media When Tucker Carlson Attacked Him
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    You just hit six years, your anniversary.
    Congratulations, and the show. -We did.
    Thank you. [ Cheers and applause ]
    -I'm sure the same question people like me get asked,
    you get asked, "It probably feels a little bit longer
    than six years after everything that's happened."
    -It feels like my entire lifetime.
    -Yeah. -It really does.
    I mean, particularly the last few years.
    Every week is a year. -Yeah.
    I think that's about right. -Someone the other day --
    Today, we were having a segment meeting,
    and someone's like, "When the Mueller came --
    When the Barr report came out,
    you know, Barr letter came out 10 days ago,"
    I was like, "Stop it." -Yeah.
    It was only 10 days ago. -Yeah.
    -And what's been nice is you have found time
    to talk about other things, and you hosted a town hall
    with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. -Yeah.
    -It was about the Green New Deal.
    And I think, you know, again, something that
    on the surface, people have heard a lot about
    but maybe not much more than that.
    -Yeah. It's funny. It's become this --
    instantly became this, like,
    cartoonish villain for the right.
    I mean, Trump TV talks about it, like, all of the time.
    -Yeah. -But very few were people --
    People talking about the politics.
    They were talking about the criticism.
    Very few people were talking about it on its own terms,
    which is not to say like, "Oh, this is the way to go."
    It's just, "What is the thing? How would it work?
    What's the theory behind it?"
    So, we wanted to kind of take some time to talk about it.
    -And did you find being in a townhall format
    you got the sense that there are people out there
    now more than ever
    who accept climate change as a serious issue?
    -I think -- It is one of the biggest generational divides
    in American politics.
    I mean, we did this thing, it was great.
    It was like 900 people. It was in the Bronx, which is
    where Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is from.
    It's from where I'm from.
    We did it in the hospital I was born in, actually.
    -Wow. -Funnily enough.
    -So, now it's getting creepy. -Yeah.
    In the L&D wing, which was weird for everyone.
    -No, we did it there. And one of the things
    I think you've seen that's been transformational,
    particularly in the last three to five years is,
    there's just grassroots energy around this issue.
    And for a long time, it was like,
    "Oh, this thing that's happening off in the future,
    and we should do something about it."
    But there are people who understand
    that we are on the front edge of it now,
    and we have to meet the challenge now.
    -I certainly enjoyed it. Some people did not.
    You mentioned -- or, you alluded to the fact that, you know,
    the Green New Deal is --
    Fox News has certainly framed it as being very problematic.
    And they do seem to have an obsession with AOC
    as a creator of bad things. -Yes.
    -Tucker Carlson, though, focused on you.
    -He did.
    -And had this to say about you in the townhall.
    -Chris Hayes is what every man would be
    if feminists ever achieved absolute power in this country.
    Apologetic, bespectacled, and deeply, deeply concerned
    about global warming
    and the patriarchal systems that cause it.
    -I mean... [ Laughter ]
    Of all the things, the idea -- -Bespectacled!
    -Bespectacled! -Yes.
    -The idea that if the feminists take over,
    we're all gonna have to wear glasses?
    [ Laughter ] -No.
    It's true. The most macho thing you can do
    is drive your car without your glasses.
    -Yeah. [ Laughter ]
    -That is -- That is peak masculinity.
    -Also, I don't know anything about Tucker Carlson,
    but he looks like a guy who needs glasses
    'cause it's constantly like... [ Laughter ]
    Maybe he'd be, like, a little -- maybe that's it.
    We think he's like, "Why is he so flummoxed?"
    It's like, he can barely read the cue cards.
    -He needs the feminist takeover to happen sooner.
    I think that he did not quite recognize the context
    of that comment outside the confines
    of the bubble of Fox News. -Right.
    That it would escape and be -- yeah.
    -It did escape. And it led to, basically,
    the best 24 hours of social media of my life.
    -Yeah. [ Laughter ]
    It's really nice. -It's like my birthday.
    I was like, "Oh, thanks."
    -And you're active on social media,
    and you have War on Dad Bod.
    And I know a lot of dads out there, me included --
    -Yeah, we're -- -We just think it's great
    that you're out there fighting the dad bod.
    And, so, this is your Instagram.
    Do you want to read that for us right there?
    -"Every quarter the femnarcist junta requires all adult males
    to present themselves for a fitness inspection.
    Failure to pass results in summary execution."
    [ Laughter ]
    -That was -- I mean, I will say all things --
    [ Applause ] Yeah.
    All things being equal, a zinger from Tucker Carlson to you
    is actually a lot more fun
    than a lot of the stuff that comes out of Fox.
    You know, I wish it was all -- -Oh, yeah. No.
    It was delightful. -All zingers like that.
    -Exactly, yes. Very low-stakes situation.
    -Yeah. That was -- You know, if they were just
    going after you instead immigrants,
    I'd be like, "I'll take that trade, yeah."
    [ Laughter ]
    But do you have time to consume much Fox News?
    -No, I don't.
    I mean, you do see things across your feed.
    You know, we have this thing where it's on.
    You know, it's on in the office.
    You got the three big cable news stations,
    and you sort of see what's on air on CNN,
    partly as a sort of point of comparison --
    What are people covering?
    What are the general stories that are driving that day?
    I will watch stuff online sometimes.
    I don't have a huge appetite for it.
    -Sure. [ Laughter ]
    -But I do end up seeing a fair amount.
    -Yeah. Yeah.
    And do you have a sense that --
    Are you surprised by what you see or is it now --
    have you come --
    I mean, does it stop being surprising at some point?
    -No. You know what?
    What's sort of fascinating about it, it's like,
    it is to news what like
    a Broadway set is to an actual apartment.
    -Mm-hmm. [ Laughter ]
    You look at it, and you're like, "That looks -- That kind of --
    That sort of looks like -- That sort of looks like news."
    -Yeah. [ Laughter ]
    -But it's, like, this fabricated ersatz version of it.
    -Yeah. -And everyone sort of
    does all the stuff inside the playacting set
    that is this little sort of universe they've created.
    And so it's sort of unnerving and it's surreal.
    And I think, to the degree that people exist inside
    just that world, it could be really toxic.
    -Yes. I think we've found out that that is truth.
    -I would also say -- Very true.
    [ Laughter ]
    It's the oranges of a lot of our problems.
    -Yeah. It really is. [ Laughter and applause ]
    -That's a callback.
    That's a guest doing a callback.
    You just hit six years, your anniversary.
    Congratulations, and the show. -We did.
    Thank you. [ Cheers and applause ]
    -I'm sure the same question people like me get asked,
    you get asked, "It probably feels a little bit longer
    than six years after everything that's happened."
    -It feels like my entire lifetime.
    -Yeah. -It really does.
    I mean, particularly the last few years.
    Every week is a year. -Yeah.
    I think that's about right. -Someone the other day --
    Today, we were having a segment meeting,
    and someone's like, "When the Mueller came --
    When the Barr report came out,
    you know, Barr letter came out 10 days ago,"
    I was like, "Stop it." -Yeah.
    It was only 10 days ago. -Yeah.
    -And what's been nice is you have found time
    to talk about other things, and you hosted a town hall
    with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. -Yeah.
    -It was about the Green New Deal.
    And I think, you know, again, something that
    on the surface, people have heard a lot about
    but maybe not much more than that.
    -Yeah. It's funny. It's become this --
    instantly became this, like,
    cartoonish villain for the right.
    I mean, Trump TV talks about it, like, all of the time.
    -Yeah. -But very few were people --
    People talking about the politics.
    They were talking about the criticism.
    Very few people were talking about it on its own terms,
    which is not to say like, "Oh, this is the way to go."
    It's just, "What is the thing? How would it work?
    What's the theory behind it?"
    So, we wanted to kind of take some time to talk about it.
    -And did you find being in a townhall format
    you got the sense that there are people out there
    now more than ever
    who accept climate change as a serious issue?
    -I think -- It is one of the biggest generational divides
    in American politics.
    I mean, we did this thing, it was great.
    It was like 900 people. It was in the Bronx, which is
    where Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is from.
    It's from where I'm from.
    We did it in the hospital I was born in, actually.
    -Wow. -Funnily enough.
    -So, now it's getting creepy. -Yeah.
    In the L&D wing, which was weird for everyone.
    -No, we did it there. And one of the things
    I think you've seen that's been transformational,
    particularly in the last three to five years is,
    there's just grassroots energy around this issue.
    And for a long time, it was like,
    "Oh, this thing that's happening off in the future,
    and we should do something about it."
    But there are people who understand
    that we are on the front edge of it now,
    and we have to meet the challenge now.
    -I certainly enjoyed it. Some people did not.
    You mentioned -- or, you alluded to the fact that, you know,
    the Green New Deal is --
    Fox News has certainly framed it as being very problematic.
    And they do seem to have an obsession with AOC
    as a creator of bad things. -Yes.
    -Tucker Carlson, though, focused on you.
    -He did.
    -And had this to say about you in the townhall.
    -Chris Hayes is what every man would be
    if feminists ever achieved absolute power in this country.
    Apologetic, bespectacled, and deeply, deeply concerned
    about global warming
    and the patriarchal systems that cause it.
    -I mean... [ Laughter ]
    Of all the things, the idea -- -Bespectacled!
    -Bespectacled! -Yes.
    -The idea that if the feminists take over,
    we're all gonna have to wear glasses?
    [ Laughter ] -No.
    It's true. The most macho thing you can do
    is drive your car without your glasses.
    -Yeah. [ Laughter ]
    -That is -- That is peak masculinity.
    -Also, I don't know anything about Tucker Carlson,
    but he looks like a guy who needs glasses
    'cause it's constantly like... [ Laughter ]
    Maybe he'd be, like, a little -- maybe that's it.
    We think he's like, "Why is he so flummoxed?"
    It's like, he can barely read the cue cards.
    -He needs the feminist takeover to happen sooner.
    I think that he did not quite recognize the context
    of that comment outside the confines
    of the bubble of Fox News. -Right.
    That it would escape and be -- yeah.
    -It did escape. And it led to, basically,
    the best 24 hours of social media of my life.
    -Yeah. [ Laughter ]
    It's really nice. -It's like my birthday.
    I was like, "Oh, thanks."
    -And you're active on social media,
    and you have War on Dad Bod.
    And I know a lot of dads out there, me included --
    -Yeah, we're -- -We just think it's great
    that you're out there fighting the dad bod.
    And, so, this is your Instagram.
    Do you want to read that for us right there?
    -"Every quarter the femnarcist junta requires all adult males
    to present themselves for a fitness inspection.
    Failure to pass results in summary execution."
    [ Laughter ]
    -That was -- I mean, I will say all things --
    [ Applause ] Yeah.
    All things being equal, a zinger from Tucker Carlson to you
    is actually a lot more fun
    than a lot of the stuff that comes out of Fox.
    You know, I wish it was all -- -Oh, yeah. No.
    It was delightful. -All zingers like that.
    -Exactly, yes. Very low-stakes situation.
    -Yeah. That was -- You know, if they were just
    going after you instead immigrants,
    I'd be like, "I'll take that trade, yeah."
    [ Laughter ]
    But do you have time to consume much Fox News?
    -No, I don't.
    I mean, you do see things across your feed.
    You know, we have this thing where it's on.
    You know, it's on in the office.
    You got the three big cable news stations,
    and you sort of see what's on air on CNN,
    partly as a sort of point of comparison --
    What are people covering?
    What are the general stories that are driving that day?
    I will watch stuff online sometimes.
    I don't have a huge appetite for it.
    -Sure. [ Laughter ]
    -But I do end up seeing a fair amount.
    -Yeah. Yeah.
    And do you have a sense that --
    Are you surprised by what you see or is it now --
    have you come --
    I mean, does it stop being surprising at some point?
    -No. You know what?
    What's sort of fascinating about it, it's like,
    it is to news what like
    a Broadway set is to an actual apartment.
    -Mm-hmm. [ Laughter ]
    You look at it, and you're like, "That looks -- That kind of --
    That sort of looks like -- That sort of looks like news."
    -Yeah. [ Laughter ]
    -But it's, like, this fabricated ersatz version of it.
    -Yeah. -And everyone sort of
    does all the stuff inside the playacting set
    that is this little sort of universe they've created.
    And so it's sort of unnerving and it's surreal.
    And I think, to the degree that people exist inside
    just that world, it could be really toxic.
    -Yes. I think we've found out that that is truth.
    -I would also say -- Very true.
    [ Laughter ]
    It's the oranges of a lot of our problems.
    -Yeah. It really is. [ Laughter and applause ]
    -That's a callback.
    That's a guest doing a callback.
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