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    THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME. >> THANK YOU.
    >> THANK YOU. >> AS PROMISED, I TURN NOW TO
    >> AS PROMISED, I TURN NOW TO LANNY DAVIS, MICHAEL COHEN'S
    LANNY DAVIS, MICHAEL COHEN'S FORMER LAWYER AND LEGAL ADVISER
    FORMER LAWYER AND LEGAL ADVISER AND A VETERAN OF MANY WHITE
    AND A VETERAN OF MANY WHITE HOUSE CONFLICTS INCLUDING THE
    HOUSE CONFLICTS INCLUDING THE CLINTON ERA INVESTIGATIONS.
    CLINTON ERA INVESTIGATIONS. THE FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A BIG
    THE FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A BIG NEWS NIGHT FOR YOU AND MICHAEL
    NEWS NIGHT FOR YOU AND MICHAEL COHEN.
    COHEN. THANK YOU FOR COMING ON "THE
    THANK YOU FOR COMING ON "THE BEAT."
    BEAT." >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
    >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I AM NOW BACK TO BEING A LEGAL
    I AM NOW BACK TO BEING A LEGAL ADVISER FOR THE PURPOSE OF
    ADVISER FOR THE PURPOSE OF HELPING MICHAEL THROUGH THESE
    HELPING MICHAEL THROUGH THESE CONGRESSIONAL INQUIRIES.
    CONGRESSIONAL INQUIRIES. >> SO LET'S START THERE.
    >> SO LET'S START THERE. WHAT DOES TODAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT,
    WHAT DOES TODAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT, THE FIRST TIME MR. COHEN HAS
    THE FIRST TIME MR. COHEN HAS EVER CONFIRMED PUBLICLY THAT HE
    EVER CONFIRMED PUBLICLY THAT HE WILL ADDRESS THE CONGRESS AND
    WILL ADDRESS THE CONGRESS AND THE PUBLIC.
    THE PUBLIC. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
    WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? >> FIRST OF ALL, MICHAEL'S
    >> FIRST OF ALL, MICHAEL'S FAMILY IS IN SEVERE DISTRESS AS
    FAMILY IS IN SEVERE DISTRESS AS IS MICHAEL BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO
    IS MICHAEL BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO BE GOING TO PRISON IN ABOUT SIX
    BE GOING TO PRISON IN ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS.
    OR SEVEN WEEKS. AND SECONDLY, HE WANTED AN
    AND SECONDLY, HE WANTED AN OPPORTUNITY AFTER HIS LIFE HAS
    OPPORTUNITY AFTER HIS LIFE HAS BEEN SO VIRTUALLY DESTROYED, HE
    BEEN SO VIRTUALLY DESTROYED, HE WANTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST
    WANTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST TELL THE TRUTH AS HE SAID TO MR.
    TELL THE TRUTH AS HE SAID TO MR. STEPHANOPOULOS ON JULY 2nd WLAT
    STEPHANOPOULOS ON JULY 2nd WLAT WAS LIKE WORKING FOR A MAN IN
    WAS LIKE WORKING FOR A MAN IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHO LIES,
    THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHO LIES, ACTS IMMORALLY OR ABUSIVELY AND
    ACTS IMMORALLY OR ABUSIVELY AND HAS NO BARRIERS ON ETHICS.
    HAS NO BARRIERS ON ETHICS. WHAT IS IT LIKE WHEN YOU
    WHAT IS IT LIKE WHEN YOU ACTUALLY REALIZE THAT THIS VERY
    ACTUALLY REALIZE THAT THIS VERY SAME MAN WHO MICHAEL ADMITTED TO
    SAME MAN WHO MICHAEL ADMITTED TO SHAMEFULLY HELPING IN HIS
    SHAMEFULLY HELPING IN HIS PRIVATE SECTOR JOB AS AN
    PRIVATE SECTOR JOB AS AN ATTORNEY WHEN HE RECOGNIZED THE
    ATTORNEY WHEN HE RECOGNIZED THE SAME MAN WAS NOW PRESIDENT OF
    SAME MAN WAS NOW PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, HE WANTS TO
    THE UNITED STATES, HE WANTS TO TELL A STORY ABOUT WHAT CAUSED
    TELL A STORY ABOUT WHAT CAUSED HIM TO CHANGE AND TO NOW WANT TO
    HIM TO CHANGE AND TO NOW WANT TO TELL THE TRUTH, HOW DANGEROUS IT
    TELL THE TRUTH, HOW DANGEROUS IT IS TO HAVE THIS VERY SAME MAN
    IS TO HAVE THIS VERY SAME MAN THAT ACTED THIS WAY IN THE
    THAT ACTED THIS WAY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO HAVE THE
    PRIVATE SECTOR TO HAVE THE POWERS OF THE PRESIDENCY AND HOW
    POWERS OF THE PRESIDENCY AND HOW DANGEROUS THAT IS FOR HIS FAMILY
    DANGEROUS THAT IS FOR HIS FAMILY AND FOR HIS COUNTRY.
    AND FOR HIS COUNTRY. >> MR. COHEN'S TESTIMONY REFLECT
    >> MR. COHEN'S TESTIMONY REFLECT A VERY BUSY EXECUTIVE AND
    A VERY BUSY EXECUTIVE AND CANDIDATE IN DONALD TRUMP WHO IS
    CANDIDATE IN DONALD TRUMP WHO IS OUT OF THE LOOP OR A DETAIL
    OUT OF THE LOOP OR A DETAIL ORIENTED ONE WHO KNEW WHAT WAS
    ORIENTED ONE WHO KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON ON HIS BEHALF AND
    GOING ON ON HIS BEHALF AND INSIDE THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION?
    INSIDE THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION? >> HE'LL ANSWER THE QUESTIONS
    >> HE'LL ANSWER THE QUESTIONS TRUTHFULLY WHAT IT WAS LIKE
    TRUTHFULLY WHAT IT WAS LIKE WORKING FOR DONALD TRUMP.
    WORKING FOR DONALD TRUMP. HE TOLD ME MANY TIMES THAT
    HE TOLD ME MANY TIMES THAT NOTHING WENT ON INSIDE TRUMP
    NOTHING WENT ON INSIDE TRUMP TOWER THAT DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T
    TOWER THAT DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T KNOW.
    KNOW. IT WAS KIND OF A ROTATING DOOR
    IT WAS KIND OF A ROTATING DOOR IN AND OUT OF HIS OFFICE.
    IN AND OUT OF HIS OFFICE. AND HE'LL GET INTO ANECDOTAL
    AND HE'LL GET INTO ANECDOTAL PERSONAL MEMORIES OF WHAT IT WAS
    PERSONAL MEMORIES OF WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO WORK FOR TRUMP.
    LIKE TO WORK FOR TRUMP. BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY
    BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING EARLIER.
    SOMETHING EARLIER. THE ONLY TIME THAT MICHAEL HAS
    THE ONLY TIME THAT MICHAEL HAS ADMITTED TO LYING WAS LYING ON
    ADMITTED TO LYING WAS LYING ON MR. TRUMP'S BEHALF, NOT FOR
    MR. TRUMP'S BEHALF, NOT FOR MICHAEL COHEN'S BENEFIT BUT AT
    MICHAEL COHEN'S BENEFIT BUT AT THE TIME EVEN CONSULTING WITH
    THE TIME EVEN CONSULTING WITH THE WHITE HOUSE ON THE LIE ABOUT
    THE WHITE HOUSE ON THE LIE ABOUT THE MOSCOW TOWER AND THAT TRUMP
    THE MOSCOW TOWER AND THAT TRUMP WAS INVOLVED IN THOSE
    WAS INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS ALL THE WAY THROUGH
    DISCUSSIONS ALL THE WAY THROUGH EVEN MR. GIULIANI SAYS THROUGH
    EVEN MR. GIULIANI SAYS THROUGH NOVEMBER OF 2016.
    NOVEMBER OF 2016. >> YOU'RE SAYING MICHAEL COHEN
    >> YOU'RE SAYING MICHAEL COHEN CONSULTED WITH WHITE HOUSE STAFF
    CONSULTED WITH WHITE HOUSE STAFF ABOUT THAT MISLEADING TESTIMONY
    ABOUT THAT MISLEADING TESTIMONY TO CONGRESS?
    TO CONGRESS? >> IT'S A MATTER OF PUBLIC
    >> IT'S A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD THAT HE DID TALK TO WHITE
    RECORD THAT HE DID TALK TO WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS.
    HOUSE OFFICIALS. BUT THE POINT IS -- WHICH
    BUT THE POINT IS -- WHICH OFFICIALS?
    OFFICIALS? >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW NOW AND I
    >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW NOW AND I WON'T SAY NOW WHAT SPECIFIC
    WON'T SAY NOW WHAT SPECIFIC OFFICIALS THERE ARE MATTERS THAT
    OFFICIALS THERE ARE MATTERS THAT MR. MUELLER IS LOOKING INTO THAT
    MR. MUELLER IS LOOKING INTO THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE CAREFUL
    WE ARE GOING TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT.
    ABOUT. BUT I DID WANT TO --
    BUT I DID WANT TO -- >> I'LL LET YOU MAKE YOUR POINT.
    >> I'LL LET YOU MAKE YOUR POINT. DO YOU THAT I MR. COHEN WILL BE
    DO YOU THAT I MR. COHEN WILL BE IN A POSITION TO NAME NAMES IN
    IN A POSITION TO NAME NAMES IN THAT TESTIMONY?
    THAT TESTIMONY? >> I DON'T KNOW.
    >> I DON'T KNOW. WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE LOOKING
    WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE FROM MR. MUELLER AS
    FOR GUIDANCE FROM MR. MUELLER AS I KNOW MR. CUMMINGS IS.
    I KNOW MR. CUMMINGS IS. AND I WANT TO CLARIFY --
    AND I WANT TO CLARIFY -- >> HOW DOES THAT WORK?
    >> HOW DOES THAT WORK? DO YOU, YOU KNOW, LAWYER TO
    DO YOU, YOU KNOW, LAWYER TO LAWYER, LANNY, I GOT TO DO IT,
    LAWYER, LANNY, I GOT TO DO IT, DO YOU AND THE OTHER FOLKS ON
    DO YOU AND THE OTHER FOLKS ON THIS TEAM PRO ACTIVELY CALL THE
    THIS TEAM PRO ACTIVELY CALL THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE TO FIND
    SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE TO FIND OUT THE BOUNDARIES FOR THIS
    OUT THE BOUNDARIES FOR THIS TESTIMONY?
    TESTIMONY? OR HOW DOES THIS WORK?
    OR HOW DOES THIS WORK? BECAUSE THIS IS A IS SOMEWHAT
    BECAUSE THIS IS A IS SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL SITUATION.
    UNUSUAL SITUATION. >> FOR SURE.
    >> FOR SURE. I KNOW MR. CUMMINGS HAS AND I
    I KNOW MR. CUMMINGS HAS AND I INTEND TO BE SURE THAT AREAS
    INTEND TO BE SURE THAT AREAS UNDER INVESTIGATION BY MR.
    UNDER INVESTIGATION BY MR. MUELLER AND OTHERS HE WILL NOT
    MUELLER AND OTHERS HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER.
    BE ABLE TO ANSWER. AND I DO WANT TO GET THE
    AND I DO WANT TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY IN HERE TO CLARIFY
    OPPORTUNITY IN HERE TO CLARIFY NO AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REACHED
    NO AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REACHED WITH EITHER THE SENATE OR THE
    WITH EITHER THE SENATE OR THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES.
    HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES. I WILL WILLSAY DURING SOME
    I WILL WILLSAY DURING SOME CONVERSATIONS TO DAY, I HAVE TO
    CONVERSATIONS TO DAY, I HAVE TO CONSULT WITH MY CLIENT MR.
    CONSULT WITH MY CLIENT MR. COHEN, THERE IS NO NEED FOR A
    COHEN, THERE IS NO NEED FOR A SUBPOENA.
    SUBPOENA. WE ARE VOLUNTARILY TESTIFYING
    WE ARE VOLUNTARILY TESTIFYING BEFORE MR. CUMMINGS AND THE
    BEFORE MR. CUMMINGS AND THE TRUTH WILL NOW EMPOWER MICHAEL
    TRUTH WILL NOW EMPOWER MICHAEL COHEN, THE MICHAEL COHEN TRUTH
    COHEN, THE MICHAEL COHEN TRUTH WEBSITE IS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT
    WEBSITE IS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO HELP
    BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO HELP MICHAEL COHEN THROUGH THIS
    MICHAEL COHEN THROUGH THIS ORDEAL.
    ORDEAL. AND I ALSO DO WANT TO REMIND YOU
    AND I ALSO DO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT ON THIS PROGRAM I MENTIONED
    THAT ON THIS PROGRAM I MENTIONED THE DISPROPORTIONATE PRISON TIME
    THE DISPROPORTIONATE PRISON TIME THAT MICHAEL COHEN IS NOW FORCED
    THAT MICHAEL COHEN IS NOW FORCED TO ENDURE COMPARED TO MANY
    TO ENDURE COMPARED TO MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE MUCH MORE GRAVE
    OTHERS WHO HAVE MUCH MORE GRAVE OFFENSES COMPARED TO HIS,
    OFFENSES COMPARED TO HIS, DISPROPORTIONATE INJUSTICES AND
    DISPROPORTIONATE INJUSTICES AND ISSUE THAT I HOPE I WILL BRING
    ISSUE THAT I HOPE I WILL BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE AMERICAN
    TO THE ATTENTION OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS I DID FIRST ON YOUR
    PEOPLE AS I DID FIRST ON YOUR PROGRAM.
    PROGRAM. >> YOU MENTIONED TWO THINGS.
    >> YOU MENTIONED TWO THINGS. ONE IS AS YOU SAY HOW THE
    ONE IS AS YOU SAY HOW THE FEDERAL PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK
    FEDERAL PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK HANDLED THIS AND THE SENTENCING.
    HANDLED THIS AND THE SENTENCING. THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN
    THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN REPORTING ON.
    REPORTING ON. AND DISCUSSED WITH YOU.
    AND DISCUSSED WITH YOU. LET'S TAKE BOTH OF THE TWO
    LET'S TAKE BOTH OF THE TWO POINTS YOU JUST RAISED.
    POINTS YOU JUST RAISED. FIRST, YOU'RE REFERENCING THE
    FIRST, YOU'RE REFERENCING THE FACT THAT IN ADDITION TO
    FACT THAT IN ADDITION TO TONIGHT'S NEWS THAT MR. COHEN
    TONIGHT'S NEWS THAT MR. COHEN WILL ADDRESS THE DEMOCRATS,
    WILL ADDRESS THE DEMOCRATS, HOUSE REQUEST AND THE OVERSIGHT
    HOUSE REQUEST AND THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
    COMMITTEE. THERE ARE OTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH
    THERE ARE OTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER COMMITTEES.
    OTHER COMMITTEES. SO WHEN YOU SAY TONIGHT THAT NO
    SO WHEN YOU SAY TONIGHT THAT NO SUBPOENA IS NECESSARY, YOU ARE
    SUBPOENA IS NECESSARY, YOU ARE SUGGESTING THAT YOU ARE CLOSE TO
    SUGGESTING THAT YOU ARE CLOSE TO HAVING A VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT TO
    HAVING A VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT TO ADDRESS OTHER COMMITTEES AS
    ADDRESS OTHER COMMITTEES AS REQUESTED?
    REQUESTED? >> I HAVE TO CONSULT WITH MY
    >> I HAVE TO CONSULT WITH MY CLIENT.
    CLIENT. THIS IS ALL VERY NEW TODAY.
    THIS IS ALL VERY NEW TODAY. BUT THE ANSWER IS WE HAVE HAD
    BUT THE ANSWER IS WE HAVE HAD CONSTRUCTIVE DISCUSSIONS.
    CONSTRUCTIVE DISCUSSIONS. I DON'T WANT TO NAME THE
    I DON'T WANT TO NAME THE SPECIFICS.
    SPECIFICS. BUT I KNOW THAT MR. COHEN WANTS
    BUT I KNOW THAT MR. COHEN WANTS TO BE VOLUNTARY, WANTS TO BE
    TO BE VOLUNTARY, WANTS TO BE TRUTHFUL.
    TRUTHFUL. HIS DAYS LYING FOR DONALD TRUMP,
    HIS DAYS LYING FOR DONALD TRUMP, DIRECTED TO DO A CRIME OF PAYING
    DIRECTED TO DO A CRIME OF PAYING HUSH MONEY TO CORRUPT THE
    HUSH MONEY TO CORRUPT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WHICH HE
    PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WHICH HE DID AT THE DIRECTION OF MR.
    DID AT THE DIRECTION OF MR. TRUMP, THOSE DAYS ARE OVER.
    TRUMP, THOSE DAYS ARE OVER. HE'S NOW COMMITTED TO TELLING
    HE'S NOW COMMITTED TO TELLING THE TRUTH AND WE'LL WORK WITH
    THE TRUTH AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE OTHER COMMITTEES TO ANSWER
    THE OTHER COMMITTEES TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION TO BE VOLUNTARY
    YOUR QUESTION TO BE VOLUNTARY RATHER THAN UNDER A SUBPOENA.
    RATHER THAN UNDER A SUBPOENA. >> IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THERE
    >> IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THERE COULD BE AN AGREEMENT FOR HIM TO
    COULD BE AN AGREEMENT FOR HIM TO DO MORE THAN ONE APPEARANCE
    DO MORE THAN ONE APPEARANCE ALTHOUGH YOU'RE NOT CONFIRMING
    ALTHOUGH YOU'RE NOT CONFIRMING THAT.
    THAT. I TAKE YOUR POINT.
    I TAKE YOUR POINT. AS FOR THE OTHER ISSUES RAISED,
    AS FOR THE OTHER ISSUES RAISED, THIS CAME UP WITH NICK ACKERMAN,
    THIS CAME UP WITH NICK ACKERMAN, HE WAS SAYING THAT IT MAY BE THE
    HE WAS SAYING THAT IT MAY BE THE CASE THAT A TRUTHFUL AND FULL
    CASE THAT A TRUTHFUL AND FULL ACCOUNT BEFORE THE HOUSE BY MR.
    ACCOUNT BEFORE THE HOUSE BY MR. COHEN COULD HELP IN REDUCING HIS
    COHEN COULD HELP IN REDUCING HIS SENTENCE IN THE FUTURE THROUGH
    SENTENCE IN THE FUTURE THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS THAT OCCURS.
    THE LEGAL PROCESS THAT OCCURS. IS THAT IN YOUR VIEW POSSIBLE?
    IS THAT IN YOUR VIEW POSSIBLE? IS IT A GOAL THAT'S BEEN
    IS IT A GOAL THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED?
    DISCUSSED? >> IT'S CERTAINLY MY ASPIRATION,
    >> IT'S CERTAINLY MY ASPIRATION, MY HOPE AND I WILL REMIND YOUR
    MY HOPE AND I WILL REMIND YOUR VIEWERS THAT MR. MUELLER PRAISED
    VIEWERS THAT MR. MUELLER PRAISED MR. COHEN WHILE ALSO OBTAINING A
    MR. COHEN WHILE ALSO OBTAINING A GUILTY PLEA FOR THE LIES
    GUILTY PLEA FOR THE LIES REGARDING THE MOSCOW TOWER
    REGARDING THE MOSCOW TOWER MATTER.
    MATTER. PRAISED MR. COHEN FOR
    PRAISED MR. COHEN FOR COOPERATION EVEN THE SOUTHERN
    COOPERATION EVEN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK PROSECUTORS
    DISTRICT OF NEW YORK PROSECUTORS PRAISED HIM FOR BEING CREDIBLE
    PRAISED HIM FOR BEING CREDIBLE AND THE JUDGE DID AS WELL.
    AND THE JUDGE DID AS WELL. I'M HOPING, YES, THE ANSWER TO
    I'M HOPING, YES, THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THAT BY LOOKING
    YOUR QUESTION IS THAT BY LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL LENGTHst OF THE
    AT THE ACTUAL LENGTHst OF THE SENTENCE, HE'S TAKEN
    SENTENCE, HE'S TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY TO ALL OF THE
    RESPONSIBILITY TO ALL OF THE CRIMES HE CONFESSED TO.
    CRIMES HE CONFESSED TO. BUT THE LENGZTHTH OF THE SENTENC
    BUT THE LENGZTHTH OF THE SENTENC TO ME TOGETHER WITH HIS
    TO ME TOGETHER WITH HIS TESTIMONY AND HIS COMMITMENT TO
    TESTIMONY AND HIS COMMITMENT TO THE TRUTH.
    THE TRUTH. AND LET ME REMIND YOUR AUDIENCE,
    AND LET ME REMIND YOUR AUDIENCE, HE ALREADY SAID HE WOULD NOT
    HE ALREADY SAID HE WOULD NOT ACCEPT A PARDON FROM DONALD
    ACCEPT A PARDON FROM DONALD TRUMP IF IT WAS OFFERED AND I AM
    TRUMP IF IT WAS OFFERED AND I AM SURE IT WON'T BE OFFERED.
    SURE IT WON'T BE OFFERED. HE'S COMMITTED TO THE TRUTH AND
    HE'S COMMITTED TO THE TRUTH AND THE MICHAEL COHEN TRUTH FUND, I
    THE MICHAEL COHEN TRUTH FUND, I HAVE TO GIVE THAT A PLUG AGAIN.
    HAVE TO GIVE THAT A PLUG AGAIN. IT IS ABOUT HELPING HIM AND HIS
    IT IS ABOUT HELPING HIM AND HIS FAMILY AS HE GOES OFF TO PRISON
    FAMILY AS HE GOES OFF TO PRISON FOR NOW A THREE YEAR TERM THAT I
    FOR NOW A THREE YEAR TERM THAT I HOPE WILL BE REDUCED.
    HOPE WILL BE REDUCED. >> I THINK THERE IS TWO WAYS TO
    >> I THINK THERE IS TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT.
    LOOK AT. THAT ONE IS YOU'RE DOING YOUR
    THAT ONE IS YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB, ADVOCATING FOR THIS
    JOB, ADVOCATING FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL YOU REPRESENTED AND
    INDIVIDUAL YOU REPRESENTED AND HE AND HIS FAMILY HAVE A GREAT
    HE AND HIS FAMILY HAVE A GREAT PERSONAL INTEREST, OBVIOUSLY, IN
    PERSONAL INTEREST, OBVIOUSLY, IN ANY POTENTIAL REDUCTION OF THE
    ANY POTENTIAL REDUCTION OF THE SENTENCE.
    SENTENCE. THE OTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS
    THE OTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SIMPLY
    FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SIMPLY FOLLOWING THIS AT A DISTANCE AND
    FOLLOWING THIS AT A DISTANCE AND WONDER WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH
    WONDER WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH IN AN ENVIRONMENT I THINK YOU
    IN AN ENVIRONMENT I THINK YOU AND I COULD AGREE, WASHINGTON
    AND I COULD AGREE, WASHINGTON DID
    DID DOES NOT FEEL NORMAL.
    DOES NOT FEEL NORMAL. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE
    THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE ACCUSING EACH OTHER OF LYING.
    ACCUSING EACH OTHER OF LYING. DOES THE FACT THAT MR. COHEN
    DOES THE FACT THAT MR. COHEN HAVE -- THAT HE HAS AND HIS
    HAVE -- THAT HE HAS AND HIS FAMILY HAS AN INCENTIVE HERE TO
    FAMILY HAS AN INCENTIVE HERE TO BE TRUTHFUL, TO AVOID OR REDUCE
    BE TRUTHFUL, TO AVOID OR REDUCE PRISON TIME, DOES THAT IN YOUR
    PRISON TIME, DOES THAT IN YOUR VIEW MAKE HIM POTENTIALLY A MORE
    VIEW MAKE HIM POTENTIALLY A MORE CREDIBLE WITNESS AGAINST DONALD
    CREDIBLE WITNESS AGAINST DONALD TRUMP WHEN HE SPEAKS TO THE
    TRUMP WHEN HE SPEAKS TO THE HOUSE?
    HOUSE? >> WELL, I WOULD SIMPLY QUOTE
    >> WELL, I WOULD SIMPLY QUOTE THE ANSWER AS YES.
    THE ANSWER AS YES. I WOULD QUOTE MR. MUELLER WHO
    I WOULD QUOTE MR. MUELLER WHO PRAISED HAD HIM FOR 70 HOURS AND
    PRAISED HAD HIM FOR 70 HOURS AND SEVEN DAYS OF CONVERSATION AND
    SEVEN DAYS OF CONVERSATION AND COOPERATION AND WHATEVER
    COOPERATION AND WHATEVER CREDIBILITY ISSUES THAT HAVE
    CREDIBILITY ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED THAT HE HAS
    BEEN RAISED THAT HE HAS CONFESSED TO, I REMIND EVERYONE
    CONFESSED TO, I REMIND EVERYONE WAS FOR THE BENEFIT OF DONALD
    WAS FOR THE BENEFIT OF DONALD TRUMP AND HIS ADMISSION TO
    TRUMP AND HIS ADMISSION TO COMPLICITY AND ENABLING DONALD
    COMPLICITY AND ENABLING DONALD TRUMP WHEN HE WORKED FOR HIM IN
    TRUMP WHEN HE WORKED FOR HIM IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAS BEEN
    THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAS BEEN CONVERTED INTO FEAR FOR OUR
    CONVERTED INTO FEAR FOR OUR COUNTRY AND OUR FAMILY KNOWING
    COUNTRY AND OUR FAMILY KNOWING DONALD TRUMP'S FLAWS DEEPLY
    DONALD TRUMP'S FLAWS DEEPLY FLAWED CHARACTER TRAITS THAT WE
    FLAWED CHARACTER TRAITS THAT WE NOW ARE WITNESSING AS
    NOW ARE WITNESSING AS ENDANGERING OUR COUNTRY.
    ENDANGERING OUR COUNTRY. >> I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO
    >> I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO SHARE YOUR VIEWS ON THIS BIG
    SHARE YOUR VIEWS ON THIS BIG NEWS NIGHT.
    NEWS NIGHT. IT'S NOT EVERY NIGHT IN AMERICAN
    IT'S NOT EVERY NIGHT IN AMERICAN HISTORY THAT YOU HAVE A
    HISTORY THAT YOU HAVE A SITUATION LIKE THIS, A FORMER
    SITUATION LIKE THIS, A FORMER LAWYER TO A PRESIDENT PLEDGING
    LAWYER TO A PRESIDENT PLEDGING TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC UNDER OATH
    TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC UNDER OATH BEFORE HE GOES TO PRISON.
    BEFORE HE GOES TO PRISON. AND AS A PAST LAWYER FOR THAT
    AND AS A PAST LAWYER FOR THAT LAWYER, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU
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