President Donald Trump Admin Aims To Limit Citizenship For Legal Immigrants | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

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    >> ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO BRING MY PANEL BACK IN
    I WANT TO BRING MY PANEL BACK IN TO WEIGH ON THIS.
    TO WEIGH ON THIS. CONGRESSMAN MALONEY, WHAT IS
    CONGRESSMAN MALONEY, WHAT IS YOUR TAKE?
    YOUR TAKE? BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF
    BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF US ARE NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS
    US ARE NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS SO WE ARE ALL DESCENDANTS OF
    SO WE ARE ALL DESCENDANTS OF MOST LIKELY LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
    MOST LIKELY LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. THAT'S HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS.
    THAT'S HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS. >> FIRST, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY
    >> FIRST, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY I'M RUNNING FOR ATTORNEY
    I'M RUNNING FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL, THAT'S WHY.
    GENERAL, THAT'S WHY. BECAUSE A GROUP OF ATTORNEY
    BECAUSE A GROUP OF ATTORNEY GENERALS, I WILL PREDICT TO YOU,
    GENERALS, I WILL PREDICT TO YOU, IS GOING TO STOP THE
    IS GOING TO STOP THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT NONSENSE.
    IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT NONSENSE. IT ALMOST CERTAINLY IS GOING TO
    IT ALMOST CERTAINLY IS GOING TO VIOLATE THE ADMINISTRATIVE
    VIOLATE THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES ACT.
    PROCEDURES ACT. AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE IN
    AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE IN THIS AREA OF LAW ARE STATE
    THIS AREA OF LAW ARE STATE ATTORNEYS GENERAL BANNING
    ATTORNEYS GENERAL BANNING TOGETHER TO SAY NO WAY.
    TOGETHER TO SAY NO WAY. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED ON THE 3-D
    THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED ON THE 3-D GUN PRINTING CASE AND A BUNCH OF
    GUN PRINTING CASE AND A BUNCH OF OTHER STUPID STUFF.
    OTHER STUPID STUFF. THANK GOD THE SYSTEM ALLOWS US
    THANK GOD THE SYSTEM ALLOWS US TO PUT THE BRAKES ON.
    TO PUT THE BRAKES ON. ON THE MERITS THIS IS CRAZY.
    ON THE MERITS THIS IS CRAZY. WE ARE SEEING AN ALL-OUT ATTACK
    WE ARE SEEING AN ALL-OUT ATTACK ON VULNERABLE POPULATIONS.
    ON VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. WE SAW KIDS BEING SEPARATED.
    WE SAW KIDS BEING SEPARATED. I'VE GOT A MEMBER OF MY STAFF
    I'VE GOT A MEMBER OF MY STAFF WHOSE PARENTS WERE THROWN OUT
    WHOSE PARENTS WERE THROWN OUT AFTER LIVING HERE 30 YEARS.
    AFTER LIVING HERE 30 YEARS. HER DAD WAS SO DEPRESSED, HE
    HER DAD WAS SO DEPRESSED, HE DIED OF A HEART ATTACK WHEN HE
    DIED OF A HEART ATTACK WHEN HE GOT BACK TO MEXICO.
    GOT BACK TO MEXICO. THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE
    THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NONVIOLENT WHO ARE WORKING TWO
    NONVIOLENT WHO ARE WORKING TWO JOBS, WHO HAVE NEVER DONE
    JOBS, WHO HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG AFTER THEY CAME
    ANYTHING WRONG AFTER THEY CAME HERE WITH A MISDEMEANOR ILLEGAL
    HERE WITH A MISDEMEANOR ILLEGAL ENTRY.
    ENTRY. >> 6 MILLION OPEN JOBS AND
    >> 6 MILLION OPEN JOBS AND AMERICANS WHO DON'T WANT THESE
    AMERICANS WHO DON'T WANT THESE JOBS.
    JOBS. HERE'S THE THING, DAVID.
    HERE'S THE THING, DAVID. THE PRESIDENT IS VERY GOOD AT
    THE PRESIDENT IS VERY GOOD AT BRANDING AND SELLING.
    BRANDING AND SELLING. AND IF -- I'M GUESSING IF I WERE
    AND IF -- I'M GUESSING IF I WERE TO WATCH THIS SEGMENT ON A
    TO WATCH THIS SEGMENT ON A CONSERVATIVE MEDIA OUTLET, THEY
    CONSERVATIVE MEDIA OUTLET, THEY WOULD SAY, DO YOU WANT
    WOULD SAY, DO YOU WANT IMMIGRANTS HERE WHO ARE LIVING
    IMMIGRANTS HERE WHO ARE LIVING OFF THE SYSTEM WHO ARE ON THE
    OFF THE SYSTEM WHO ARE ON THE WELFARE SYSTEM?
    WELFARE SYSTEM? AND PEOPLE CAN SAY, ABSOLUTELY
    AND PEOPLE CAN SAY, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
    NOT. BUT THAT WELFARE SYSTEM INCLUDES
    BUT THAT WELFARE SYSTEM INCLUDES OBAMACARE.
    OBAMACARE. IT INCLUDES CHILD HEALTH
    IT INCLUDES CHILD HEALTH INSURANCE.
    INSURANCE. WHICH LOADS OF PEOPLE -- THOSE
    WHICH LOADS OF PEOPLE -- THOSE ARE THE SYSTEMS MILLIONS OF
    ARE THE SYSTEMS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE USE.
    PEOPLE USE. >> HE'S FRAMING AN ISSUE FOR
    >> HE'S FRAMING AN ISSUE FOR VOTERS AND IT'S HEARTBREAKING
    VOTERS AND IT'S HEARTBREAKING AND IT'S NOT JUST --
    AND IT'S NOT JUST -- >> IT'S A LIE.
    >> IT'S A LIE. >> IT'S A LIE.
    >> IT'S A LIE. IT'S ALSO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
    IT'S ALSO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND
    IT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND DONALD TRUMP -- BECAUSE NOBODY'S
    DONALD TRUMP -- BECAUSE NOBODY'S GOING TO PUSH OUT ON DONALD
    GOING TO PUSH OUT ON DONALD TRUMP FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
    TRUMP FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. EVERY SINGLE MOVE THEY MAKE ON
    EVERY SINGLE MOVE THEY MAKE ON IMMIGRATION IS TO MAKE IT HARDER
    IMMIGRATION IS TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO REALIZE THE
    FOR PEOPLE TO REALIZE THE AMERICAN DREAM, TO MAKE IT
    AMERICAN DREAM, TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO IMMIGRATE
    HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO IMMIGRATE HERE IN THIS CASE LEGALLY.
    HERE IN THIS CASE LEGALLY. THEY'RE FRAMING AN ISSUE FOR
    THEY'RE FRAMING AN ISSUE FOR NOVEMBER THAT THEY BELIEVE WILL
    NOVEMBER THAT THEY BELIEVE WILL DISTRACT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
    DISTRACT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FROM ALL THESE OTHER TRUMP DOWN
    FROM ALL THESE OTHER TRUMP DOWN BALLOT NEGATIVES.
    BALLOT NEGATIVES. ALONG THE WAY, THEY'RE ALSO
    ALONG THE WAY, THEY'RE ALSO BARING THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE
    BARING THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND IT'S WRONG.
    REPUBLICAN PARTY AND IT'S WRONG. MY WIFE AND I JUST WENT TO A
    MY WIFE AND I JUST WENT TO A NATURALIZATION CEREMONY FOR A
    NATURALIZATION CEREMONY FOR A GROUP OF REFUGEES.
    GROUP OF REFUGEES. NOW, THIS IS A DIFFERENT
    NOW, THIS IS A DIFFERENT IMMIGRATION CLASS THAN THOSE
    IMMIGRATION CLASS THAN THOSE THAT ARE BEING TALKED ABOUT.
    THAT ARE BEING TALKED ABOUT. I LEARNED SOMETHING THAT DAY
    I LEARNED SOMETHING THAT DAY THAT WAS FASCINATING.
    THAT WAS FASCINATING. THE LOCAL ORGANIZATION IN
    THE LOCAL ORGANIZATION IN FLORIDA THAT PROVIDES THE
    FLORIDA THAT PROVIDES THE IMMIGRATION OR REFUGEE
    IMMIGRATION OR REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT SERVICES TOLD US
    RESETTLEMENT SERVICES TOLD US WHEN A REFUGEE COMES HERE, YOU
    WHEN A REFUGEE COMES HERE, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES SEVERAL YEARS.
    KNOW, IT TAKES SEVERAL YEARS. YOU'RE VETTED BY FOUR OR FIVE
    YOU'RE VETTED BY FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
    DIFFERENT AGENCIES. YOU ARRIVE.
    YOU ARRIVE. YOU HAVE 60 OR 90 DAYS TO HAVE
    YOU HAVE 60 OR 90 DAYS TO HAVE HOUSING AND A JOB AND THEN YOU
    HOUSING AND A JOB AND THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
    HAVE TO PAY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT BACK FOR YOUR PLANE TICKET.
    BACK FOR YOUR PLANE TICKET. SO IN TERMS OF THOSE WHO ARE
    SO IN TERMS OF THOSE WHO ARE HERE LEGALLY, SOMEHOW SUCKING
    HERE LEGALLY, SOMEHOW SUCKING OFF OF THE SYSTEM, IT SIMPLY
    OFF OF THE SYSTEM, IT SIMPLY DOESN'T HAPPEN.
    DOESN'T HAPPEN. IF IT DOES, IT'S ONLY BECAUSE
    IF IT DOES, IT'S ONLY BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST AS ELIGIBLE AS
    THEY'RE JUST AS ELIGIBLE AS THOSE WHO ARE BORN HERE TO
    THOSE WHO ARE BORN HERE TO RECEIVE THE VERY SERVICES OF THE
    RECEIVE THE VERY SERVICES OF THE GOVERNMENT THAT THEY HAVE
    GOVERNMENT THAT THEY HAVE PLEDGED THEIR LOYALTY TO.
    PLEDGED THEIR LOYALTY TO. >> PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF THE
    >> PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF THE E-VERIFY SYSTEM ARE PAYING TAXES
    E-VERIFY SYSTEM ARE PAYING TAXES WHEN THEY WORK AND THEN WHEN HE
    WHEN THEY WORK AND THEN WHEN HE GET KICKED OUT OF THE COUNTRY NO
    GET KICKED OUT OF THE COUNTRY NO ONE IS SENDING THEM A CHECK.
    ONE IS SENDING THEM A CHECK. IMMIGRATION LAWYERS ARE SAYING
    IMMIGRATION LAWYERS ARE SAYING THIS COULD IMPACT 20 MILLION
    THIS COULD IMPACT 20 MILLION IMMIGRANTS.
    IMMIGRANTS. YET IT'S NOT GOING TO REQUIRE
    YET IT'S NOT GOING TO REQUIRE CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL.
    CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL. YOU CAN SAY STATE ATTORNEYS
    YOU CAN SAY STATE ATTORNEYS GENERAL ARE GOING TO STAND UP
    GENERAL ARE GOING TO STAND UP AND FIGHT THIS.
    AND FIGHT THIS. CAN THEY REALLY?
    CAN THEY REALLY? IF I RAN A SMALL BUSINESS AND I
    IF I RAN A SMALL BUSINESS AND I NEEDED TO HAVE EMPLOYEES, THIS
    NEEDED TO HAVE EMPLOYEES, THIS COULD PUT ME OUT OF BUSINESS.
    COULD PUT ME OUT OF BUSINESS. >> RIGHT.
    >> RIGHT. YOU CAN -- THEY CAN FIGHT IT.
    YOU CAN -- THEY CAN FIGHT IT. THEY CAN SLOW IT DOWN.
    THEY CAN SLOW IT DOWN. ULTIMATELY, WE NEED TO WIN
    ULTIMATELY, WE NEED TO WIN ELECTIONS.
    ELECTIONS. ULTIMATELY, WHAT'S WE'RE TALKING
    ULTIMATELY, WHAT'S WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE LAST SEGMENT.
    ABOUT IN THE LAST SEGMENT. ULTIMATELY, YOU'RE GOING TO --
    ULTIMATELY, YOU'RE GOING TO -- LIKE THE MUSLIM MAN, YOU'RE
    LIKE THE MUSLIM MAN, YOU'RE GOING TO FORCE HIM INTO A LESS
    GOING TO FORCE HIM INTO A LESS DAMAGING VERSION OF IT BUT IT
    DAMAGING VERSION OF IT BUT IT WILL BE ACTION THE PRESIDENT OF
    WILL BE ACTION THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES CAN TAKE.
    THE UNITED STATES CAN TAKE. IT'S ALSO RACISM, BY THE WAY IF
    IT'S ALSO RACISM, BY THE WAY IF WE CAN JUST SAY THAT.
    WE CAN JUST SAY THAT. THIS IS AN ATTACK ON NONWHITE
    THIS IS AN ATTACK ON NONWHITE PEOPLE.
    PEOPLE. WE SHOULD STOP BEATING AROUND
    WE SHOULD STOP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH ON IT.
    THE BUSH ON IT. WHEN YOU SEE THE PRESIDENT DOING
    WHEN YOU SEE THE PRESIDENT DOING IT EVERY DAY, WHEN HE GETS IN
    IT EVERY DAY, WHEN HE GETS IN POLITICAL TROUBLE RIGHT NOW.
    POLITICAL TROUBLE RIGHT NOW. HE GOES BACK TO THIS TOXIC
    HE GOES BACK TO THIS TOXIC POISONOUS WELL OF ROYCISM WHERE
    POISONOUS WELL OF ROYCISM WHERE HE GOES AFTER BLACK ATHLETES OR
    HE GOES AFTER BLACK ATHLETES OR GOES AFTER IMMIGRANTS WHO HIS
    GOES AFTER IMMIGRANTS WHO HIS BASE IMAGINES TO BE OF A
    BASE IMAGINES TO BE OF A DIFFERENT RACE.
    DIFFERENT RACE. IT'S JUST WRONG.
    IT'S JUST WRONG. >> WHY DOES IT MATTER TO THE
    >> WHY DOES IT MATTER TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY?
    REPUBLICAN PARTY? GEORGE BUSH WON ON COMPASSIONATE
    GEORGE BUSH WON ON COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVISM.
    CONSERVATIVISM. >> SURE DID.
    >> SURE DID. >> REPUBLICANS HAVE SPENT YEARS
    >> REPUBLICANS HAVE SPENT YEARS TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE,
    TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE, LISTEN, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU
    LISTEN, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU THINK THERE ARE TRACES OF RACISM
    THINK THERE ARE TRACES OF RACISM OR WE ONLY WANT TO WORK FOR THE
    OR WE ONLY WANT TO WORK FOR THE RICH.
    RICH. BUT THAT'S NOT US.
    BUT THAT'S NOT US. NOW AN ADMINISTRATION THAT'S
    NOW AN ADMINISTRATION THAT'S SAYING THAT'S US.
    SAYING THAT'S US. AND WEARING A T-SHIRT THAT SAYS
    AND WEARING A T-SHIRT THAT SAYS IT.
    IT. >> THEY TRIED TO QUIET AND HUSH
    >> THEY TRIED TO QUIET AND HUSH THOSE VOICES WITHIN THE
    THOSE VOICES WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
    REPUBLICAN PARTY. FROM SARAH PALIN TO DONALD
    FROM SARAH PALIN TO DONALD TRUMP, YOU CAN DRAW A DIRECT
    TRUMP, YOU CAN DRAW A DIRECT LINE.
    LINE. AND NOW GIVING THEM LEADERSHIP
    AND NOW GIVING THEM LEADERSHIP ROLES IN THIS CASE WITHIN THE
    ROLES IN THIS CASE WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION.
    ADMINISTRATION. THERE'S A WAY TO STOP THIS IN
    THERE'S A WAY TO STOP THIS IN SEPTEMBER.
    SEPTEMBER. CONGRESS HAS TO PASS AN
    CONGRESS HAS TO PASS AN APPROPRIATIONS MEASURE BEFORE
    APPROPRIATIONS MEASURE BEFORE OCTOBER 1.
    OCTOBER 1. >> THAT DOES WHAT?
    >> THAT DOES WHAT? >> THAT FUNDS THE GOVERNMENT.
    >> THAT FUNDS THE GOVERNMENT. WHAT IS ROUTINELY DONE ON
    WHAT IS ROUTINELY DONE ON CAPITOL HILL IS A SINGLE
    CAPITOL HILL IS A SINGLE PROVISION IN AN APPROPRIATIONS
    PROVISION IN AN APPROPRIATIONS BILL THAT SAYS NOT ENOUGH FUNDS
    BILL THAT SAYS NOT ENOUGH FUNDS PROVIDED IN THIS BILL MAY BE
    PROVIDED IN THIS BILL MAY BE USED TO IMPLEMENT THE FOLLOWING
    USED TO IMPLEMENT THE FOLLOWING RULE.
    RULE. CONGRESS.
    CONGRESS. THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS CAN STOP
    THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS CAN STOP THIS.
    THIS. IF THEY HAVE THE CONGRESS TO DO
    IF THEY HAVE THE CONGRESS TO DO IT.
    IT. BUT THEY WON'T BECAUSE THEY'RE
    BUT THEY WON'T BECAUSE THEY'RE COWARDS.
    COWARDS. >> I WOULDN'T HOLD YOUR BREATH.
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