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    SHOW IN TELEVISION HISTORY. THIS IS "MEET THE PRESS" WITH
    THIS IS "MEET THE PRESS" WITH CHUCK TODD.
    CHUCK TODD. >>> GOOD SUNDAY MORNING.
    >>> GOOD SUNDAY MORNING. SHE WAS A REALITY TV STAR WHO
    SHE WAS A REALITY TV STAR WHO WOUND UP WORKING IN A REALITY TV
    WOUND UP WORKING IN A REALITY TV STAR'S WHITE HOUSE.
    STAR'S WHITE HOUSE. BY HER OWN ADMISSION, OMAROSA
    BY HER OWN ADMISSION, OMAROSA MANIGAULT NEWMAN AND DONALD
    MANIGAULT NEWMAN AND DONALD TRUMP USED EACH OTHER.
    TRUMP USED EACH OTHER. SHE WRITES, WE HAD A SYMBIOTIC
    SHE WRITES, WE HAD A SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP.
    RELATIONSHIP. I GAVE HIM RATINGS AND HE GAVE
    I GAVE HIM RATINGS AND HE GAVE ME A WOMAN OF COLOR
    ME A WOMAN OF COLOR OPPORTUNITIES.
    OPPORTUNITIES. THAT RELATIONSHIP STARTED ON
    THAT RELATIONSHIP STARTED ON "THE APPRENTICE" IN 2004 AND
    "THE APPRENTICE" IN 2004 AND CONTINUED THROUGH A SERIES OF
    CONTINUED THROUGH A SERIES OF REALITY TV SHOWS.
    REALITY TV SHOWS. >> I ADORE YOU.
    >> I ADORE YOU. WE HAVE HAD TREMENDOUS SUCCESS
    WE HAVE HAD TREMENDOUS SUCCESS TOGETHER.
    TOGETHER. YOU HELPED MAKE ME A STAR.
    YOU HELPED MAKE ME A STAR. DENNIS, SHE HELPED TO MAKE ME A
    DENNIS, SHE HELPED TO MAKE ME A STAR.
    STAR. BUT OMAROSA, YOU'RE FIRED.
    BUT OMAROSA, YOU'RE FIRED. >> IN 2016, SHE JOINED THE TRUMP
    >> IN 2016, SHE JOINED THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AS DIRECTOR OF
    CAMPAIGN AS DIRECTOR OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN OUTREACH.
    AFRICAN-AMERICAN OUTREACH. ON THE TRAIL AND SUBSEQUENTLY AS
    ON THE TRAIL AND SUBSEQUENTLY AS THE MOST SENIOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN
    THE MOST SENIOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN ON THE WHITE HOUSE STAFF.
    WOMAN ON THE WHITE HOUSE STAFF. AND SHE BECAME ONE OF MR.
    AND SHE BECAME ONE OF MR. TRUMP'S MOST VOCAL SUPPORTERS.
    TRUMP'S MOST VOCAL SUPPORTERS. >> WHEN I SAY TRUMP TRAIN, I
    >> WHEN I SAY TRUMP TRAIN, I WANT YOU WANT TO SAY CHOO-CHOO.
    WANT YOU WANT TO SAY CHOO-CHOO. Y'ALL READY?
    Y'ALL READY? EVERY CRITIC, EVERY DETRACTOR
    EVERY CRITIC, EVERY DETRACTOR WILL HAVE TO BOW DOWN TO
    WILL HAVE TO BOW DOWN TO PRESIDENT TRUMP.
    PRESIDENT TRUMP. I HAD AN HONOR TO TRAVEL AROUND
    I HAD AN HONOR TO TRAVEL AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH THE PRESIDENT
    THE COUNTRY WITH THE PRESIDENT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
    FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. YOU ALL KNOW HIM AS THE
    YOU ALL KNOW HIM AS THE PRESIDENT.
    PRESIDENT. I KNOW HIM AS A FRIEND.
    I KNOW HIM AS A FRIEND. I KNOW HIS HEART.
    I KNOW HIS HEART. >> BUT SINCE SHE WAS FIRED IN
    >> BUT SINCE SHE WAS FIRED IN DECEMBER, SHE'S TURNED ON
    DECEMBER, SHE'S TURNED ON PRESIDENT TRUMP AND NOW IN HER
    PRESIDENT TRUMP AND NOW IN HER NEW BOOK SHE CALLS HIM A RACIST,
    NEW BOOK SHE CALLS HIM A RACIST, A BIGOT AND A MISOGYNIST AND
    A BIGOT AND A MISOGYNIST AND SAID HE'S LOSING HIS MENTAL
    SAID HE'S LOSING HIS MENTAL FACULTIES.
    FACULTIES. THE WHITE HOUSE SAID THIS IS
    THE WHITE HOUSE SAID THIS IS RIDDLED WITH LIES IT'S SAD THAT
    RIDDLED WITH LIES IT'S SAD THAT A DISGRUNTLED FORMER WHITE HOUSE
    A DISGRUNTLED FORMER WHITE HOUSE EMPLOYEE IS TRYING TO PROFIT OFF
    EMPLOYEE IS TRYING TO PROFIT OFF THE FALSE ATTACKS.
    THE FALSE ATTACKS. AND OMAROSA HAS A RECORDING THAT
    AND OMAROSA HAS A RECORDING THAT SHE SAYS SHE RECENTLY MADE --
    SHE SAYS SHE RECENTLY MADE -- THAT SHE SECRETLY MADE OF HER
    THAT SHE SECRETLY MADE OF HER FIRING BY JOHN KELLY.
    FIRING BY JOHN KELLY. >> WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT
    >> WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT LEAVING THE WHITE HOUSE.
    LEAVING THE WHITE HOUSE. IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION OVER
    IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS THAT THERE'S
    THE LAST FEW MONTHS THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME PRETTY IN MY OPINION
    BEEN SOME PRETTY IN MY OPINION SIGNIFICANT INTEGRITY ISSUES.
    SIGNIFICANT INTEGRITY ISSUES. >> YOU'LL HEAR MORE OF THAT
    >> YOU'LL HEAR MORE OF THAT RECORDING IN A MOMENT.
    RECORDING IN A MOMENT. SO OMAROSA MANIGAULT NEWMAN,
    SO OMAROSA MANIGAULT NEWMAN, FORMER ASSISTANT TO MR. TRUMP
    FORMER ASSISTANT TO MR. TRUMP JOINS ME NOW.
    JOINS ME NOW. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME,
    >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, CHUCK.
    CHUCK. >> WELCOME TO "MEET THE PRESS."
    >> WELCOME TO "MEET THE PRESS." LET ME START WITH WHAT YOU
    LET ME START WITH WHAT YOU DESCRIBE AS A YEAR LONG EFFORT
    DESCRIBE AS A YEAR LONG EFFORT TO LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT A RUMOR
    TO LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT A RUMOR THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN
    THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN CAUGHT ON TAPE USING THE "N"
    CAUGHT ON TAPE USING THE "N" WORD ON THE "THE APPRENTICE."
    WORD ON THE "THE APPRENTICE." ON THIS PHONE CONVERSATION I WAS
    ON THIS PHONE CONVERSATION I WAS TOLD EXACTLY WHAT DONALD TRUMP
    TOLD EXACTLY WHAT DONALD TRUMP SAID, YES, THE "N" WORD AND
    SAID, YES, THE "N" WORD AND OTHERS IN A CLASSIC TRUMP GOES
    OTHERS IN A CLASSIC TRUMP GOES NUCLEAR RANT.
    NUCLEAR RANT. AND WHEN HE SAID THEM DURING
    AND WHEN HE SAID THEM DURING PRODUCTION HE WAS MIKED AND
    PRODUCTION HE WAS MIKED AND THERE'S AN AUDIO TRACK.
    THERE'S AN AUDIO TRACK. FOR OVER A YEAR I WAS SO AFRAID
    FOR OVER A YEAR I WAS SO AFRAID OF HEARING THE SPECIFICS OF
    OF HEARING THE SPECIFICS OF SOMEONE FROM THE ROOM, HEARING
    SOMEONE FROM THE ROOM, HEARING THE TRUTH FREED FROM THAT FEAR.
    THE TRUTH FREED FROM THAT FEAR. DID YOU HEAR THE TAPE OR DID YOU
    DID YOU HEAR THE TAPE OR DID YOU HEAR A DESCRIPTION OF THE TAPE?
    HEAR A DESCRIPTION OF THE TAPE? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU
    >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON.
    FOR HAVING ME ON. AND IN THIS BOOK, I DESCRIBE
    AND IN THIS BOOK, I DESCRIBE THIS LONG JOURNEY OF HEARING
    THIS LONG JOURNEY OF HEARING THESE RUMORS OVER AND OVER
    THESE RUMORS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
    AGAIN. AND WHEN I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
    AND WHEN I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET UP WITH THREE DIFFERENT
    MEET UP WITH THREE DIFFERENT SOURCES, THEY DESCRIBED THE SAME
    SOURCES, THEY DESCRIBED THE SAME EXACT STATEMENTS.
    EXACT STATEMENTS. AFTER I CLOSED THE BOOK, I HAD
    AFTER I CLOSED THE BOOK, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT IN LOS
    AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT IN LOS ANGELES AND SIT DOWN WITH THE
    ANGELES AND SIT DOWN WITH THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY HAS A COPY
    PERSON WHO ACTUALLY HAS A COPY OF THE TAPE AND I HEARD HIS
    OF THE TAPE AND I HEARD HIS VOICE AS CLEAR AS YOU AND I ARE
    VOICE AS CLEAR AS YOU AND I ARE SITTING HERE.
    SITTING HERE. >> YOU HAVE HEARD THE TAPE?
    >> YOU HAVE HEARD THE TAPE? >> I HAD HEARD THE TAPE --
    >> I HAD HEARD THE TAPE -- >> SINCE PUBLICATION OF THIS
    >> SINCE PUBLICATION OF THIS BOOK?
    BOOK? >> ABSOLUTELY.
    >> ABSOLUTELY. >> SO YOU KNOW IT EXISTS?
    >> SO YOU KNOW IT EXISTS? >> I KNOW IT EXISTS AND WHAT I
    >> I KNOW IT EXISTS AND WHAT I REGRET IS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE
    REGRET IS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO LEVERAGE IT AS THIS
    TRYING TO LEVERAGE IT AS THIS OCTOBER SURPRISE.
    OCTOBER SURPRISE. I DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF
    I DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT.
    THAT. BUT I HAD HEARD FOR TWO YEARS
    BUT I HAD HEARD FOR TWO YEARS THAT IT EXISTED AND ONCE I HEARD
    THAT IT EXISTED AND ONCE I HEARD IT FOR MYSELF IT WAS CONFIRMED
    IT FOR MYSELF IT WAS CONFIRMED WHAT I FEARED THE MOST -- THAT
    WHAT I FEARED THE MOST -- THAT TRUMP IS A CON AND HAS BEEN
    TRUMP IS A CON AND HAS BEEN MASQUERADING AS SOMEONE WHO IS
    MASQUERADING AS SOMEONE WHO IS OPEN TO ENGAGING WITH DIVERSE
    OPEN TO ENGAGING WITH DIVERSE COMMUNITIES.
    COMMUNITIES. BUT WHEN HE TALKS THAT WAY, THE
    BUT WHEN HE TALKS THAT WAY, THE WAY HE DID ON THIS TAPE IT
    WAY HE DID ON THIS TAPE IT CONFIRMED THAT HE IS TRULY A
    CONFIRMED THAT HE IS TRULY A RACIST.
    RACIST. >> WHY DIDN'T YOU GET THAT IN
    >> WHY DIDN'T YOU GET THAT IN YOUR BOOK?
    YOUR BOOK? >> IT CLOSED TOO SOON AND THIS
    >> IT CLOSED TOO SOON AND THIS PERSON IS SO AFRAID BECAUSE OF
    PERSON IS SO AFRAID BECAUSE OF THE FORCES WHO ARE WORKING TO
    THE FORCES WHO ARE WORKING TO KEEP THIS TAPE FROM COMING OUT.
    KEEP THIS TAPE FROM COMING OUT. I MEAN, WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT IT
    I MEAN, WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT IT IN THE FALL OF 2016.
    IN THE FALL OF 2016. GOT ON A CONFERENCE CALL WITH
    GOT ON A CONFERENCE CALL WITH KATRINA PIERSON, LYNNE PATTON
    KATRINA PIERSON, LYNNE PATTON AND JASON MILLER AS YOU WILL SEE
    AND JASON MILLER AS YOU WILL SEE IN THE BOOK AND THEY ALL
    IN THE BOOK AND THEY ALL SUSPECTED IT WAS TRUE.
    SUSPECTED IT WAS TRUE. IN FACT, KATRINA PEARSON, THE
    IN FACT, KATRINA PEARSON, THE SPOKESWOMAN FOR THE CAMPAIGN
    SPOKESWOMAN FOR THE CAMPAIGN SAID HE SAID IT.
    SAID HE SAID IT. IT'S TRUE.
    IT'S TRUE. >> SHE HEARD HIM SAY IT.
    >> SHE HEARD HIM SAY IT. SHE DENIED --
    SHE DENIED -- >> I MEAN, SHE KNOWS I HAVE
    >> I MEAN, SHE KNOWS I HAVE RECEIPTS.
    RECEIPTS. I THINK SHE SHOULD PROBABLY READ
    I THINK SHE SHOULD PROBABLY READ THE BOOK FIRST AND THEN HEAR
    THE BOOK FIRST AND THEN HEAR HERSELF SAYING IT.
    HERSELF SAYING IT. >> BEFORE LISTENING TO THAT
    >> BEFORE LISTENING TO THAT TAPE, BEFORE GETTING THE TAPE
    TAPE, BEFORE GETTING THE TAPE THAT YOU DESCRIBED, HAD YOU --
    THAT YOU DESCRIBED, HAD YOU -- WERE YOU EVER IN HIS PRESENCE
    WERE YOU EVER IN HIS PRESENCE WHEN HE USED A RACIAL SLUR?
    WHEN HE USED A RACIAL SLUR? >> YOU KNOW, I WAS IN HIS
    >> YOU KNOW, I WAS IN HIS PRESENCE WHEN HE SAID
    PRESENCE WHEN HE SAID INAPPROPRIATE THINGS BUT NEVER
    INAPPROPRIATE THINGS BUT NEVER USED THE "N" WORD IN MY PRESENCE
    USED THE "N" WORD IN MY PRESENCE EVER.
    EVER. >> LET ME MOVE ON.
    >> LET ME MOVE ON. YOU SAID THAT THE BETRAYAL --
    YOU SAID THAT THE BETRAYAL -- THE IDEA THAT HE MIGHT HAVE USED
    THE IDEA THAT HE MIGHT HAVE USED THIS WORD, THAT IT WOULD BE THIS
    THIS WORD, THAT IT WOULD BE THIS BETRAYAL BECAUSE HE MIGHT HAVE
    BETRAYAL BECAUSE HE MIGHT HAVE USED IT ABOUT YOU.
    USED IT ABOUT YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY.
    >> ABSOLUTELY. >> DO YOU BELIEVE HE USED IT
    >> DO YOU BELIEVE HE USED IT ABOUT YOU?
    ABOUT YOU? >> POSSIBLY.
    >> POSSIBLY. BECAUSE TRUMP TALKS ABOUT
    BECAUSE TRUMP TALKS ABOUT EVERYONE BEHIND THEIR BACKS.
    EVERYONE BEHIND THEIR BACKS. HE HAS A NICKNAME FOR EVERYONE
    HE HAS A NICKNAME FOR EVERYONE IN HIS ADMINISTRATION AND HIS
    IN HIS ADMINISTRATION AND HIS CIRCLE.
    CIRCLE. IN FACT, YESTERDAY, ON THIS
    IN FACT, YESTERDAY, ON THIS MOMENT BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE,
    MOMENT BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE, THE ANNIVERSARY OF
    THE ANNIVERSARY OF CHARLOTTESVILLE INSTEAD OF
    CHARLOTTESVILLE INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT HOW TO UNIFY THE
    TALKING ABOUT HOW TO UNIFY THE NATION HE ACTUALLY INSULTED ME
    NATION HE ACTUALLY INSULTED ME BY CALLING ME A LOW LIFE.
    BY CALLING ME A LOW LIFE. THAT IS A MAN WHO IS INCLINED TO
    THAT IS A MAN WHO IS INCLINED TO START RACIALLY CHARGED
    START RACIALLY CHARGED ENGAGEMENT AND USE RACE TO KIND
    ENGAGEMENT AND USE RACE TO KIND OF STIR UP HIS BASE.
    OF STIR UP HIS BASE. >> HERE'S WHAT I THINK A LOT OF
    >> HERE'S WHAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE
    PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE WITH.
    WITH. HE HAS SAID A LOT OF RACIAL
    HE HAS SAID A LOT OF RACIAL THINGS.
    THINGS. HE SAID A LOT OF RACIAL THINGS
    HE SAID A LOT OF RACIAL THINGS DURING THE CAMPAIGN CALLING
    DURING THE CAMPAIGN CALLING MEXICAN RAPISTS.
    MEXICAN RAPISTS. ATTACKING A FEDERAL JUDGE
    ATTACKING A FEDERAL JUDGE BECAUSE HE WAS HISPANIC.
    BECAUSE HE WAS HISPANIC. YOU TALK ABOUT HIS OBSESSION
    YOU TALK ABOUT HIS OBSESSION WITH THE QUOTE CENTRAL PARK FIVE
    WITH THE QUOTE CENTRAL PARK FIVE MYTHOLOGY THERE.
    MYTHOLOGY THERE. WE RE -- RETWEETING FALSE CRIME
    WE RE -- RETWEETING FALSE CRIME STATISTICS.
    STATISTICS. YOU SAID -- YOU ACKNOWLEDGE HE
    YOU SAID -- YOU ACKNOWLEDGE HE DID THINGS THAT WERE RACIAL,
    DID THINGS THAT WERE RACIAL, THAT HE USED RACE TO MANIPULATE
    THAT HE USED RACE TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE.
    PEOPLE. YOU HAVE SAID ALL THOSE THINGS
    YOU HAVE SAID ALL THOSE THINGS AND THEN YOU WROTE THIS IN
    AND THEN YOU WROTE THIS IN DECEMBER OF 2016.
    DECEMBER OF 2016. I'M LIVING THE AMERICAN DREAM
    I'M LIVING THE AMERICAN DREAM BECAUSE OF DONALD TRUMP.
    BECAUSE OF DONALD TRUMP. LOOK AT THE WEALTH AND THE
    LOOK AT THE WEALTH AND THE EXPOSURE THAT I HAD.
    EXPOSURE THAT I HAD. IT'S HARD TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT
    IT'S HARD TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T LIKE
    THAT DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T LIKE BLACK PEOPLE AND BLACK WOMEN.
    BLACK PEOPLE AND BLACK WOMEN. >> ABSOLUTELY.
    >> ABSOLUTELY. BEING USED FOR DONALD TRUMP FOR
    BEING USED FOR DONALD TRUMP FOR SO LONG I WAS LIKE THE FROG IN
    SO LONG I WAS LIKE THE FROG IN THE HOT WATER.
    THE HOT WATER. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE IN
    YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE IN THE SITUATION UNTIL IT KEEPS
    THE SITUATION UNTIL IT KEEPS BUBBLING AND BUBBLING.
    BUBBLING AND BUBBLING. IT IS CLEAR IN HINDSIGHT BECAUSE
    IT IS CLEAR IN HINDSIGHT BECAUSE IT'S OF COURSE 20/20.
    IT'S OF COURSE 20/20. AS I TALK ABOUT IN "UNHINGED"
    AS I TALK ABOUT IN "UNHINGED" YOU SEE FROM 2003 WHEN I FIRST
    YOU SEE FROM 2003 WHEN I FIRST MET DONALD TRUMP THE EVOLUTION
    MET DONALD TRUMP THE EVOLUTION OF A VERY UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP
    OF A VERY UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HE AND I AND I TALK
    BETWEEN HE AND I AND I TALK INTIMATELY ABOUT THE THINGS THAT
    INTIMATELY ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HE SAID.
    HE SAID. HIS PLEDGE TO DO MORE FOR THE
    HIS PLEDGE TO DO MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
    COMMUNITY. HIS -- AS I SAID, INVESTMENT IN
    HIS -- AS I SAID, INVESTMENT IN MY OWN CAREER.
    MY OWN CAREER. BUT WHAT I KNOW NOW I DIDN'T
    BUT WHAT I KNOW NOW I DIDN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF -- IN 2003
    HAVE THE BENEFIT OF -- IN 2003 OR 2004 OR 2010.
    OR 2004 OR 2010. SO YES, IT IS HINDSIGHT.
    SO YES, IT IS HINDSIGHT. BUT I WILL SAY THIS TO YOU.
    BUT I WILL SAY THIS TO YOU. I WAS COMPLICIT WITH THIS WHITE
    I WAS COMPLICIT WITH THIS WHITE HOUSE DECEIVING THIS NATION.
    HOUSE DECEIVING THIS NATION. THEY CONTINUE TO DECEIVE THIS
    THEY CONTINUE TO DECEIVE THIS NATION BY HOW MENTALLY DECLINED
    NATION BY HOW MENTALLY DECLINED HE IS.
    HE IS. HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR HIM TO
    HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR HIM TO PROCESS COMPLEX INFORMATION.
    PROCESS COMPLEX INFORMATION. HOW HE IS NOT ENGAGED IN SOME OF
    HOW HE IS NOT ENGAGED IN SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS
    THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS THAT IMPACTS OUR COUNTRY.
    THAT IMPACTS OUR COUNTRY. I WAS COMPLICIT AND FOR THAT I
    I WAS COMPLICIT AND FOR THAT I REGRET.
    REGRET. >> ONE OF THE MOMENTS COMPLICITY
    >> ONE OF THE MOMENTS COMPLICITY TOOK PLACE AFTER
    TOOK PLACE AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE.
    CHARLOTTESVILLE. THIS IS THE PRESIDENT -- THE DAY
    THIS IS THE PRESIDENT -- THE DAY AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE, HE
    AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE, HE CONDEMNED THE EGREGIOUS DISPLAY
    CONDEMNED THE EGREGIOUS DISPLAY OF HATRED, BIGOTRY AND VIOLENCE
    OF HATRED, BIGOTRY AND VIOLENCE ON MANY SIDES.
    ON MANY SIDES. HE HAD ALREADY USED THE FRAYED
    HE HAD ALREADY USED THE FRAYED MANY SIDES.
    MANY SIDES. TWO DAYS LATER YOU WERE ON FOX
    TWO DAYS LATER YOU WERE ON FOX NEWS DEFENDING HIM.
    NEWS DEFENDING HIM. HERE'S WHAT YOU SAID.
    HERE'S WHAT YOU SAID. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP, HE SAID THAT
    >> PRESIDENT TRUMP, HE SAID THAT HE CONDEMNED THE ACTS.
    HE CONDEMNED THE ACTS. HE KNEW THAT THEY WERE
    HE KNEW THAT THEY WERE DISGUSTING AND LOATHSOME.
    DISGUSTING AND LOATHSOME. BUT HE DID COME OUT UNTIL THE
    BUT HE DID COME OUT UNTIL THE FACTS WERE KNOWN ABOUT THE
    FACTS WERE KNOWN ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION AND TODAY HE MADE
    INVESTIGATION AND TODAY HE MADE A STATEMENT THAT WAS VERY CLEAR
    A STATEMENT THAT WAS VERY CLEAR AND VERY DECISIVE ABOUT WHERE HE
    AND VERY DECISIVE ABOUT WHERE HE STOOD ON THESE ACTS.
    STOOD ON THESE ACTS. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT,
    >> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT, OMAROSA?
    OMAROSA? >> ABSOLUTELY.
    >> ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN AS YOU AID --
    I MEAN AS YOU AID -- >> WAS THAT COMPLICIT?
    >> WAS THAT COMPLICIT? >> TOTALLY COMPLICIT.
    >> TOTALLY COMPLICIT. IN FACT, I HAD A BLIND SPOT
    IN FACT, I HAD A BLIND SPOT WHERE IT CAME TO DONALD TRUMP.
    WHERE IT CAME TO DONALD TRUMP. I WANTED TO SEE THE BEST IN HIM
    I WANTED TO SEE THE BEST IN HIM AND OBVIOUSLY I FAILED MISERABLY
    AND OBVIOUSLY I FAILED MISERABLY BECAUSE AFTER THAT HE GETS UP
    BECAUSE AFTER THAT HE GETS UP AND HE SAYS THAT THERE ARE GOOD
    AND HE SAYS THAT THERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES WHEN HE
    PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES WHEN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DENOUNCING WHAT
    SHOULD HAVE BEEN DENOUNCING WHAT WE SAW AS CLEARLY RACIST, NAZIS,
    WE SAW AS CLEARLY RACIST, NAZIS, GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN OF THIS
    GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN OF THIS COUNTRY.
    COUNTRY. AND IT'S JUST REALLY DIFFICULT
    AND IT'S JUST REALLY DIFFICULT TO SEE THAT I WAS SO MUCH A PART
    TO SEE THAT I WAS SO MUCH A PART OF THIS.
    OF THIS. AND I ACCEPT AND I ADMIT THAT I
    AND I ACCEPT AND I ADMIT THAT I WAS.
    WAS. BUT NOW I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
    BUT NOW I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS WE ARE CELEBRATING --
    THAT AS WE ARE CELEBRATING -- WELL, ACTUALLY OBSERVING THE
    WELL, ACTUALLY OBSERVING THE ANNIVERSARY OF CHARLOTTESVILLE
    ANNIVERSARY OF CHARLOTTESVILLE THAT HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY
    THAT HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY ACTUALLY TO BRING THE COUNTRY
    ACTUALLY TO BRING THE COUNTRY TOGETHER.
    TOGETHER. BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT HE DOESN'T
    BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT
    HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT BECAUSE HE PUTS HIMSELF OVER
    BECAUSE HE PUTS HIMSELF OVER COUNTRY EVERY DAY.
    COUNTRY EVERY DAY. >> HERE'S WHAT MANY PEOPLE ARE
    >> HERE'S WHAT MANY PEOPLE ARE SEEING THOUGH.
    SEEING THOUGH. THAT AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE YOU
    THAT AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE YOU DIDN'T RESIGN.
    DIDN'T RESIGN. AND YES, YOU WANTED TO WORK ON
    AND YES, YOU WANTED TO WORK ON THE -- I THINK HISTORIC BLACK
    THE -- I THINK HISTORIC BLACK COLLEGE INITIATIVE.
    COLLEGE INITIATIVE. I UNDERSTAND THAT.
    I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THEN YOU DIDN'T LEAVE AFTER
    BUT THEN YOU DIDN'T LEAVE AFTER THAT.
    THAT. YOU DIDN'T LEAVE AFTER HE HAD
    YOU DIDN'T LEAVE AFTER HE HAD THAT UNFORTUNATE CALL WITH THE
    THAT UNFORTUNATE CALL WITH THE WIDOW OF THE DEAD SOLDIER.
    WIDOW OF THE DEAD SOLDIER. YOU DIDN'T LEAVE AFTER HE CALLED
    YOU DIDN'T LEAVE AFTER HE CALLED KNEELING NFL PLAYERS S.O.B.s.
    KNEELING NFL PLAYERS S.O.B.s. THIS IS WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE
    THIS IS WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE NEW YORKER ABOUT YOUR NEW
    NEW YORKER ABOUT YOUR NEW PERSPECTIVE.
    PERSPECTIVE. HER REALIZATION ABOUT THE
    HER REALIZATION ABOUT THE TRUMP'S OUTLOOK APPEARS TO HAVE
    TRUMP'S OUTLOOK APPEARS TO HAVE EMERGED DURING HER BOOK DEAL.
    EMERGED DURING HER BOOK DEAL. IT'S A GLACIAL SELF-INTERESTED
    IT'S A GLACIAL SELF-INTERESTED ONE.
    ONE. THERE'S MANY PEOPLE HERE THAT
    THERE'S MANY PEOPLE HERE THAT SAY YOU'RE NOW IDENTIFYING
    SAY YOU'RE NOW IDENTIFYING HIMSELF AS A RACIST AFTER YOU
    HIMSELF AS A RACIST AFTER YOU GOT YOUR BOOK DEAL.
    GOT YOUR BOOK DEAL. THAT DO YOU SAY TO THE
    THAT DO YOU SAY TO THE CRITICISM?
    CRITICISM? >> FIRST OF ALL, I NEED TO PUSH
    >> FIRST OF ALL, I NEED TO PUSH BACK ABOUT THAT.
    BACK ABOUT THAT. FIRST OF ALL I'M AN AUTHOR.
    FIRST OF ALL I'M AN AUTHOR. THIS IS MY THIRD BOOK.
    THIS IS MY THIRD BOOK. I WRITE ABOUT MY LIFE AND SO THE
    I WRITE ABOUT MY LIFE AND SO THE ASSERTION THAT I WOKE UP AND
    ASSERTION THAT I WOKE UP AND DECIDED TO WRITE A BOOK WHEN
    DECIDED TO WRITE A BOOK WHEN IT'S MY THIRD BOOK I HAVE TO
    IT'S MY THIRD BOOK I HAVE TO PUSH ON THAT.
    PUSH ON THAT. BUT CERTAINLY I WAS WORKING TO
    BUT CERTAINLY I WAS WORKING TO TRY TO FIND SOMEONE WHO COULD
    TRY TO FIND SOMEONE WHO COULD TAKE MY PLACE.
    TAKE MY PLACE. I WAS THE ONLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN
    I WAS THE ONLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN AT THE TABLE.
    AT THE TABLE. IF I LEFT, WHICH I DID, WHEN I
    IF I LEFT, WHICH I DID, WHEN I LEFT, THERE HAS BEEN NO NEW
    LEFT, THERE HAS BEEN NO NEW APPOINTMENT OF AN
    APPOINTMENT OF AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN ASSISTANT TO
    AFRICAN-AMERICAN ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT WHICH MEANS THAT
    THE PRESIDENT WHICH MEANS THAT PEOPLE ARE MAKING DECISIONS
    PEOPLE ARE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT US WITHOUT US.
    ABOUT US WITHOUT US. AND AS I WORKED TO TRY TO FIND
    AND AS I WORKED TO TRY TO FIND THAT REPLACEMENT, I REALIZED
    THAT REPLACEMENT, I REALIZED THAT THEY COULD CARE LESS ABOUT
    THAT THEY COULD CARE LESS ABOUT HAVING AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOICE
    HAVING AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOICE AT THE TABLE.
    AT THE TABLE. AND TO THIS DAY, THERE IS NO ONE
    AND TO THIS DAY, THERE IS NO ONE SERVING IN THAT ADMINISTRATION
    SERVING IN THAT ADMINISTRATION IN THE ROLE THAT I WAS IN AND
    IN THE ROLE THAT I WAS IN AND THAT'S A GREAT VOID.
    THAT'S A GREAT VOID. SO THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO JUDGE
    SO THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO JUDGE SHOULD READ THE BOOK FIRST AND
    SHOULD READ THE BOOK FIRST AND GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT
    GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST EXAMINE THE JOURNEY THAT I
    LEAST EXAMINE THE JOURNEY THAT I WAS ON BEFORE MAKING DECISIONS
    WAS ON BEFORE MAKING DECISIONS AND JUDGMENTS ABOUT MY STORY.
    AND JUDGMENTS ABOUT MY STORY. >> I HAVE HEARD THE --
    >> I HAVE HEARD THE -- >> THEY SHOULD READ IT FIRST.
    >> THEY SHOULD READ IT FIRST. >> YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON
    >> YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON THAT YOU'RE THERE IS TO STAND IN
    THAT YOU'RE THERE IS TO STAND IN FRONT OF THE RACIAL FREIGHT
    FRONT OF THE RACIAL FREIGHT TRAIN AND THAT YOU DIDN'T -- YOU
    TRAIN AND THAT YOU DIDN'T -- YOU DIDN'T DO THAT.
    DIDN'T DO THAT. THAT -- YOU HAVE ADMITTED THAT
    THAT -- YOU HAVE ADMITTED THAT YOU WERE COMPLICIT --
    YOU WERE COMPLICIT -- >> DESCRIBED MYSELF AS A
    >> DESCRIBED MYSELF AS A GUARDRAIL IN THE BOOK.
    GUARDRAIL IN THE BOOK. I'M NOT --
    I'M NOT -- >> WERE YOU A GOOD GUARDRAIL?
    >> WERE YOU A GOOD GUARDRAIL? >> I GOT BANGED UP A LOT.
    >> I GOT BANGED UP A LOT. I GOT BANGED UP BY PEOPLE WHO
    I GOT BANGED UP BY PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THERE SHOULD BE NO
    THOUGHT THERE SHOULD BE NO AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE
    AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE ADMINISTRATION AND THEY'RE
    ADMINISTRATION AND THEY'RE SEEING THE RESULT OF HAVING
    SEEING THE RESULT OF HAVING ABSOLUTELY NO VOICE.
    ABSOLUTELY NO VOICE. THAT IT IS IMPACTING THE
    THAT IT IS IMPACTING THE POLICIES THAT AFFECT OUR
    POLICIES THAT AFFECT OUR CHILDREN, INNER CITIES, POLICIES
    CHILDREN, INNER CITIES, POLICIES THAT INFORM ALL THE THINGS THAT
    THAT INFORM ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN REGARDS TO
    ARE HAPPENING IN REGARDS TO CRIME.
    CRIME. PARTICULARLY IN CHICAGO AS WE
    PARTICULARLY IN CHICAGO AS WE SEE THE DEATHS.
    SEE THE DEATHS. WITHOUT A VOICE THERE YOU'RE
    WITHOUT A VOICE THERE YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THEM
    GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THEM NEGLECT THE NEEDS OF A COMMUNITY
    NEGLECT THE NEEDS OF A COMMUNITY THAT REALLY DOES NEED LEADERSHIP
    THAT REALLY DOES NEED LEADERSHIP RIGHT NOW.
    RIGHT NOW. >> ALL RIGHT.
    >> ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO GO TO YOUR WHITE HOUSE
    I WANT TO GO TO YOUR WHITE HOUSE COMMENT.
    COMMENT. WE'LL START ON YOUR LAST DAY.
    WE'LL START ON YOUR LAST DAY. WERE YOU FIRED OR DID YOU
    WERE YOU FIRED OR DID YOU RESIGN?
    RESIGN? WHAT'S THE STORY?
    WHAT'S THE STORY? WHAT DO WE CALL THIS?
    WHAT DO WE CALL THIS? >> IT'S PRETTY CLEAR FROM THAT
    >> IT'S PRETTY CLEAR FROM THAT RECORDING THAT JOHN KELLY CAME
    RECORDING THAT JOHN KELLY CAME IN AND SAID, THIS IS THE END.
    IN AND SAID, THIS IS THE END. WE WANT YOU TO LEAVE.
    WE WANT YOU TO LEAVE. BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THEY
    BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THEY TAKE ME INTO THE SITUATION ROOM.
    TAKE ME INTO THE SITUATION ROOM. THE DOORS ARE LOCKED.
    THE DOORS ARE LOCKED. THEY TELL ME I CAN'T LEAVE.
    THEY TELL ME I CAN'T LEAVE. AND THEY START TO THREATEN ME.
    AND THEY START TO THREATEN ME. PUT FEAR IN ME.
    PUT FEAR IN ME. TO PUT ME UNDER DURESS.
    TO PUT ME UNDER DURESS. >> LOOK, I WANT TO PLAY THIS
    >> LOOK, I WANT TO PLAY THIS TAPE.
    TAPE. I'M CURIOUS, HOW IS IT -- YOU
    I'M CURIOUS, HOW IS IT -- YOU RECORDED THE CHIEF OF STAFF --
    RECORDED THE CHIEF OF STAFF -- >> ABSOLUTELY.
    >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THE WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF
    >> THE WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF IN THE SITUATION ROOM.
    STAFF IN THE SITUATION ROOM. >> YES.
    >> YES. >> THIS TAKES PLACE BEFORE THE
    >> THIS TAKES PLACE BEFORE THE CAN --
    CAN -- >> IN THE SITUATION ROOM.
    >> IN THE SITUATION ROOM. >> YOU PREPARED IN A MOMENT'S
    >> YOU PREPARED IN A MOMENT'S NOTICE TO RECORD HIM --
    NOTICE TO RECORD HIM -- >> NO, FIRST OF ALL.
    >> NO, FIRST OF ALL. I'M ON THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
    I'M ON THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN THERE.
    THERE. WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE MEETING
    WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE MEETING WITH JOHN KELLY WHO'S REFUSED TO
    WITH JOHN KELLY WHO'S REFUSED TO MEET WITH ME THE WHOLE TIME HE'S
    MEET WITH ME THE WHOLE TIME HE'S THERE, IN THE SITUATION ROOM,
    THERE, IN THE SITUATION ROOM, CHUCK, WE'RE NOT GOING IN THERE
    CHUCK, WE'RE NOT GOING IN THERE TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PARKING
    TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PARKING OR SCHEDULING ISSUES.
    OR SCHEDULING ISSUES. >> YOU KNEW THIS WAS --
    >> YOU KNEW THIS WAS -- >> WE'RE GOING IN THERE TO TALK
    >> WE'RE GOING IN THERE TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS.
    ABOUT SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS. >> YOU'RE PREPARED TO TAPE?
    >> YOU'RE PREPARED TO TAPE? >> I WAS PREPARED BECAUSE FIRST
    >> I WAS PREPARED BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL JOHN KELLY HAD BEEN VERY
    OF ALL JOHN KELLY HAD BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT TRYING TO FIND A
    VOCAL ABOUT TRYING TO FIND A REASON TO LET ME GO.
    REASON TO LET ME GO. HE HAD GONE TO THE PRESS INSTEAD
    HE HAD GONE TO THE PRESS INSTEAD OF COMING TO ME, NEVER GIVING ME
    OF COMING TO ME, NEVER GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH HIM.
    AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH HIM. SO THE QUESTION IS WHY NOT HAVE
    SO THE QUESTION IS WHY NOT HAVE THE MEETING IN THE CHIEF OF
    THE MEETING IN THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S OFFICE?
    STAFF'S OFFICE? WHY PUT ME IN THE SITUATION
    WHY PUT ME IN THE SITUATION ROOM, LOCK THE DOOR AND TELL ME
    ROOM, LOCK THE DOOR AND TELL ME OVER AND OVER AGAIN, YOU'LL HEAR
    OVER AND OVER AGAIN, YOU'LL HEAR HIS PART, THAT I COULDN'T LEAVE.
    HIS PART, THAT I COULDN'T LEAVE. THAT I COULDN'T CONSULT AN
    THAT I COULDN'T CONSULT AN ATTORNEY.
    ATTORNEY. THAT I COULDN'T TALK TO MY
    THAT I COULDN'T TALK TO MY HUSBAND WHO WAS SITTING OUTSIDE
    HUSBAND WHO WAS SITTING OUTSIDE OF THE DOOR.
    OF THE DOOR. YES, I WAS PREPARED.
    YES, I WAS PREPARED. AND AS YOU'LL SEE IN
    AND AS YOU'LL SEE IN "UNHINGED" --
    "UNHINGED" -- >> HOW OFTEN DID YOU TAPE
    >> HOW OFTEN DID YOU TAPE PEOPLE?
    PEOPLE? >> WAIT, CHUCK.
    >> WAIT, CHUCK. IN "UNHINGED" I PROTECTED
    IN "UNHINGED" I PROTECTED MYSELF.
    MYSELF. BECAUSE THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE
    BECAUSE THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE WHERE EVERYBODY LIES.
    WHERE EVERYBODY LIES. THE PRESIDENT LIES TO THE
    THE PRESIDENT LIES TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
    AMERICAN PEOPLE. SARAH HUCKABEE LIES EVERY SINGLE
    SARAH HUCKABEE LIES EVERY SINGLE DAY.
    DAY. YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OWN BACK
    YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OWN BACK BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'LL LOOK
    BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'LL LOOK BACK AND SEE 17 KNIVES IN YOUR
    BACK AND SEE 17 KNIVES IN YOUR BACK.
    BACK. >> IT LOOKS --
    >> IT LOOKS -- >> IT'S NOT DISLOYALTY.
    >> IT'S NOT DISLOYALTY. LET ME TELL YOU, CHUCK, IF I DID
    LET ME TELL YOU, CHUCK, IF I DID NOT HAVE THIS RECORDING, PEOPLE
    NOT HAVE THIS RECORDING, PEOPLE WOULD STILL BELIEVE THE FALSE
    WOULD STILL BELIEVE THE FALSE INCREDIBLE STORY THAT I WAS
    INCREDIBLE STORY THAT I WAS RUNNING AROUND THE WHITE
    RUNNING AROUND THE WHITE HOUSE -- THE FALSE STORY THAT
    HOUSE -- THE FALSE STORY THAT WAS TOLD BY A REPORTER AND
    WAS TOLD BY A REPORTER AND REPEATED BY THIS NETWORK AND
    REPEATED BY THIS NETWORK AND OTHER REPORTERS THAT I TRIED TO
    OTHER REPORTERS THAT I TRIED TO CHARGE THE RESIDENCE AT THE
    CHARGE THE RESIDENCE AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
    WHITE HOUSE. THAT'S A LIE.
    THAT'S A LIE. IF I DIDN'T HAVE THIS RECORDING,
    IF I DIDN'T HAVE THIS RECORDING, LISTEN, PEOPLE WOULD STILL THINK
    LISTEN, PEOPLE WOULD STILL THINK THAT I WAS TRYING TO SET OFF
    THAT I WAS TRYING TO SET OFF ALARMS.
    ALARMS. SO YES, I HAD TO PROTECT MYSELF
    SO YES, I HAD TO PROTECT MYSELF AND I HAVE NO REGRET ABOUT IT.
    AND I HAVE NO REGRET ABOUT IT. >> LET'S LISTEN TO THE
    >> LET'S LISTEN TO THE RECORDING.
    RECORDING. >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
    >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE MAKE THIS
    UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE MAKE THIS A FRIENDLY DEPARTURE, WE CAN ALL
    A FRIENDLY DEPARTURE, WE CAN ALL BE -- YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT
    BE -- YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR TIME HERE IN THE WHITE
    YOUR TIME HERE IN THE WHITE HOUSE AS A YEAR OF SERVICE TO
    HOUSE AS A YEAR OF SERVICE TO THE NATION.
    THE NATION. AND THEN YOU CAN GO ON WITHOUT
    AND THEN YOU CAN GO ON WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF DIFFICULTY IN THE
    ANY TYPE OF DIFFICULTY IN THE FUTURE RELATIVE TO YOUR
    FUTURE RELATIVE TO YOUR REPUTATION.
    REPUTATION. >> HOW DID YOU TAKE THAT COMMENT
    >> HOW DID YOU TAKE THAT COMMENT ABOUT YOUR REPUTATION?
    ABOUT YOUR REPUTATION? >> IT'S VERY OBVIOUS A THREAT.
    >> IT'S VERY OBVIOUS A THREAT. HE GOES ON TO SAY THAT THINGS
    HE GOES ON TO SAY THAT THINGS CAN GET UGLY FOR YOU.
    CAN GET UGLY FOR YOU. THE CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE UNITED
    THE CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE UNITED STATES UNDER THE DIRECTION OF
    STATES UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
    THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THREATENING ME ON DAMAGE
    STATES THREATENING ME ON DAMAGE TO MY REPUTATION AND THINGS
    TO MY REPUTATION AND THINGS GETTING UGLY FOR ME.
    GETTING UGLY FOR ME. THAT'S DOWNRIGHT CRIMINAL.
    THAT'S DOWNRIGHT CRIMINAL. IF I DIDN'T HAVE THE RECORDINGS
    IF I DIDN'T HAVE THE RECORDINGS NO ONE IN AMERICA WOULD BELIEVE
    NO ONE IN AMERICA WOULD BELIEVE ME.
    ME. SO I PROTECTED AND I'M GOING TO
    SO I PROTECTED AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU I'M SO GLAD I DID.
    TELL YOU I'M SO GLAD I DID. WE CAN PUT TO BED ALL THE FALSE
    WE CAN PUT TO BED ALL THE FALSE RUMORS THAT THAT ONE REPORTER
    RUMORS THAT THAT ONE REPORTER STATED AND THE FALSE REPORTS
    STATED AND THE FALSE REPORTS SPREAD AROUND BY THE MEDIA.
    SPREAD AROUND BY THE MEDIA. >> ALL RIGHT.
    >> ALL RIGHT. LET ME PLAY THE PORTION WHERE
    LET ME PLAY THE PORTION WHERE YOU JUMP IN AND HAVE A
    YOU JUMP IN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH --
    CONVERSATION WITH -- >> CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE
    >> CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS?
    QUESTIONS? IS THE PRESIDENT AWARE OF THIS?
    IS THE PRESIDENT AWARE OF THIS? >> LET'S NO GO DOWN THE ROAD.
    >> LET'S NO GO DOWN THE ROAD. THIS IS A NON-NEGOTIABLE
    THIS IS A NON-NEGOTIABLE DISCUSSION.
    DISCUSSION. >> I NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO TALK
    >> I NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU, GENERAL KELLY.
    TO YOU, GENERAL KELLY. SO IF THIS IS MY DEPARTURE I
    SO IF THIS IS MY DEPARTURE I WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO
    WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND --
    UNDERSTAND -- >> WE CAN TALK ANOTHER TIME.
    >> WE CAN TALK ANOTHER TIME. THIS HAS TO DO WITH SERIOUS
    THIS HAS TO DO WITH SERIOUS INTEGRITY VIOLATIONS SO I'LL LET
    INTEGRITY VIOLATIONS SO I'LL LET IT GO AT THAT.
    IT GO AT THAT. THIS STAFF AND EVERYONE ON THIS
    THIS STAFF AND EVERYONE ON THIS STAFF WORKS FOR ME, NOT THE
    STAFF WORKS FOR ME, NOT THE PRESIDENT.
    PRESIDENT. >> YOU HAVE MADE NO BONES
    >> YOU HAVE MADE NO BONES ABOUT -- YOU HAVE A LOT OF
    ABOUT -- YOU HAVE A LOT OF TAPES.
    TAPES. >> WAIT.
    >> WAIT. HE JUST SAID THE STAFF AND
    HE JUST SAID THE STAFF AND EVERYBODY WORKS FOR HIM, NOT THE
    EVERYBODY WORKS FOR HIM, NOT THE PRESIDENT.
    PRESIDENT. YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
    YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, CHUCK?
    THAT, CHUCK? >> FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, MANY
    >> FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, MANY WHITE HOUSES ARE LIKE THAT.
    WHITE HOUSES ARE LIKE THAT. >> DONALD TRUMP HAS NO IDEA
    >> DONALD TRUMP HAS NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WHITE
    WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
    HOUSE. >> HE DID NOT KNOW THAT MINUTE
    >> HE DID NOT KNOW THAT MINUTE THAT YOU --
    THAT YOU -- >> NO, I KNOW HE KNOWS BECAUSE I
    >> NO, I KNOW HE KNOWS BECAUSE I HAVE TALKED TO HIM SUBSEQUENTLY.
    HAVE TALKED TO HIM SUBSEQUENTLY. HE SAID HE DELEGATED.
    HE SAID HE DELEGATED. I DELEGATED.
    I DELEGATED. SO HE KNEW.
    SO HE KNEW. HE KNEW THAT JOHN KELLY WAS
    HE KNEW THAT JOHN KELLY WAS GOING TO TAKE ME INTO THE
    GOING TO TAKE ME INTO THE SITUATION ROOM AND LOCK ME IN
    SITUATION ROOM AND LOCK ME IN THERE, THREATEN ME AND SAY THAT
    THERE, THREATEN ME AND SAY THAT THINGS WERE GOING TO GET UGLY
    THINGS WERE GOING TO GET UGLY FOR ME.
    FOR ME. THERE WOULD BE DAMAGE TO ME
    THERE WOULD BE DAMAGE TO ME REPUTATION, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE
    REPUTATION, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE NEXT DAY THERE WAS DAMAGE TO MY
    NEXT DAY THERE WAS DAMAGE TO MY REPUTATION BECAUSE THEY USED AND
    REPUTATION BECAUSE THEY USED AND EXPLOITED AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN
    EXPLOITED AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN REPORTER TO SAY I WAS RUNNING
    REPORTER TO SAY I WAS RUNNING AROUND THE RESIDENCE AND TRYING
    AROUND THE RESIDENCE AND TRYING TO BREAK INTO THE CHRISTMAS
    TO BREAK INTO THE CHRISTMAS PARTY WHICH IS LUDICROUS, CHUCK.
    PARTY WHICH IS LUDICROUS, CHUCK. IT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
    IT IS UNACCEPTABLE. THAT'S THE WAY THESE FOLKS
    THAT'S THE WAY THESE FOLKS OPERATE.
    OPERATE. WHEN HE SAID THAT PEOPLE ANSWER
    WHEN HE SAID THAT PEOPLE ANSWER TO HIM AND NOT THE PRESIDENT,
    TO HIM AND NOT THE PRESIDENT, THAT SHOULD BE CONCERNING FOR
    THAT SHOULD BE CONCERNING FOR EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN THAT HEARS
    EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN THAT HEARS ABOUT THIS.
    ABOUT THIS. >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE
    >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE INTEGRITY ISSUES THAT HE BROUGHT
    INTEGRITY ISSUES THAT HE BROUGHT UP.
    UP. IF THE WHITE HOUSE ASKED FOR
    IF THE WHITE HOUSE ASKED FOR PERMISSION TO RELEASE YOUR
    PERMISSION TO RELEASE YOUR FILE --
    FILE -- >> I WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO DO
    >> I WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO DO IT.
    IT. I'M SAYING THIS LIGHT RIGHT HERE
    I'M SAYING THIS LIGHT RIGHT HERE ON "MEET THE PRESS" --
    ON "MEET THE PRESS" -- >> RELEASE THE HR FILE OF
    >> RELEASE THE HR FILE OF WHATEVER VIOLATION --
    WHATEVER VIOLATION -- >> PLEASE, LET'S BRING IT ALL TO
    >> PLEASE, LET'S BRING IT ALL TO LIGHT.
    LIGHT. I'M SAYING RIGHT HERE ON "MEET
    I'M SAYING RIGHT HERE ON "MEET THE PRESS," YOU TOOK A CAR TO
    THE PRESS," YOU TOOK A CAR TO THE NATIONAL BASEBALL GAME --
    THE NATIONAL BASEBALL GAME -- >> SO IF THE WHITE HOUSE
    >> SO IF THE WHITE HOUSE RELEASED THE --
    RELEASED THE -- >> RELEASE IT.
    >> RELEASE IT. ABSOLUTELY.
    ABSOLUTELY. >> TRANSGRESSION THAT JOHN
    >> TRANSGRESSION THAT JOHN KELLY --
    KELLY -- >> ABSOLUTELY.
    >> ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE IN THE SAME BREATH, ROB
    BECAUSE IN THE SAME BREATH, ROB PORTER IS ACCUSED OF ALLEGEDLY
    PORTER IS ACCUSED OF ALLEGEDLY ABUSING HIS WIVES AND YOU KNOW
    ABUSING HIS WIVES AND YOU KNOW WHAT KELLY SAID, HE'S A MAN OF
    WHAT KELLY SAID, HE'S A MAN OF GREAT INTEGRITY.
    GREAT INTEGRITY. HE'S ACCUSING ME OF INTEGRITY
    HE'S ACCUSING ME OF INTEGRITY VIOLATIONS.
    VIOLATIONS. I'M SAYING, PLEASE RELEASE IT SO
    I'M SAYING, PLEASE RELEASE IT SO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SEE I
    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SEE I WORKED MY BUTT OFF TO WORK FOR
    WORKED MY BUTT OFF TO WORK FOR THE COUNTRY AND THEY WERE
    THE COUNTRY AND THEY WERE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO FRAME ME AND
    LOOKING FOR WAYS TO FRAME ME AND THEY TRIED TO BUY OFF MY SILENCE
    THEY TRIED TO BUY OFF MY SILENCE WHICH IS ALSO UNLAWFUL.
    WHICH IS ALSO UNLAWFUL. >> I WANT TO GET TO THAT IN A
    >> I WANT TO GET TO THAT IN A SECOND.
    SECOND. BUT THE DAILY BEAST IN 2017 --
    BUT THE DAILY BEAST IN 2017 -- >> ARE WE REALLY QUOTING THE
    >> ARE WE REALLY QUOTING THE DAILY BEAST ON "MEET THE PRESS"?
    DAILY BEAST ON "MEET THE PRESS"? >> I WANT TO ASK YOU THIS.
    >> I WANT TO ASK YOU THIS. IT SAYS YOU WERE CALLED THE MOST
    IT SAYS YOU WERE CALLED THE MOST DESPISED PERSON IN THE WHITE
    DESPISED PERSON IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THAT YOU'D HIJACK THE
    HOUSE, THAT YOU'D HIJACK THE WHITE HOUSE.
    WHITE HOUSE. COULD THAT BE WHY JOHN KELLY
    COULD THAT BE WHY JOHN KELLY FIRED YOU?
    FIRED YOU? >> AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T CALL ME
    >> AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T CALL ME THE COFFEE GIRL.
    THE COFFEE GIRL. THAT'S THE GO TO EXCUSE WHEN
    THAT'S THE GO TO EXCUSE WHEN THEY MISTREAT PEOPLE.
    THEY MISTREAT PEOPLE. PEOPLE DESPISE THAT I WAS CLOSE
    PEOPLE DESPISE THAT I WAS CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT THAT I HAD
    TO THE PRESIDENT THAT I HAD ACCESS TO HIM, THAT I TALKED TO
    ACCESS TO HIM, THAT I TALKED TO HIM OFTEN AND INFLUENCED HIS
    HIM OFTEN AND INFLUENCED HIS POLICY MAKING.
    POLICY MAKING. LY ADMIT TO YOU THERE WERE -- I
    LY ADMIT TO YOU THERE WERE -- I WILL ADMIT TO YOU THAT TIMES
    WILL ADMIT TO YOU THAT TIMES THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD ASK ME
    THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD ASK ME TO DO THINGS THAT WERE BIZARRE.
    TO DO THINGS THAT WERE BIZARRE. HE SAID, GO PULL AN ARTICLE
    HE SAID, GO PULL AN ARTICLE ABOUT JOE SCARBOROUGH AND MIKA.
    ABOUT JOE SCARBOROUGH AND MIKA. HE WAS WORKING AROUND THE PEOPLE
    HE WAS WORKING AROUND THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD --
    WHO WOULD -- >> AND THE NEGATIVE COVERAGE --
    >> AND THE NEGATIVE COVERAGE -- >> WHEN THE PRESIDENT CALLS YOU
    >> WHEN THE PRESIDENT CALLS YOU AND SAYS GET THIS AND THAT FOR
    AND SAYS GET THIS AND THAT FOR YOU, YES, I DID IT.
    YOU, YES, I DID IT. YES, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE
    YES, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE FEEDING HIM THE THINGS HE'S
    FEEDING HIM THE THINGS HE'S ASKED FOR, BECAUSE HE'S THE
    ASKED FOR, BECAUSE HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
    PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. WHEN HE CALLS AND ASKS, YOU
    WHEN HE CALLS AND ASKS, YOU ANSWER.
    ANSWER. >> YOU TALKED ABOUT YOU WERE
    >> YOU TALKED ABOUT YOU WERE OFFERED A JOB ON THE CAMPAIGN.
    OFFERED A JOB ON THE CAMPAIGN. YOU HAVE SHOWN ME THE E-MAIL
    YOU HAVE SHOWN ME THE E-MAIL OFFER, I HAVE READ THE OFFER
    OFFER, I HAVE READ THE OFFER THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM LARA
    THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM LARA TRUMP.
    TRUMP. >> IT WASN'T FROM LARA TRUMP.
    >> IT WASN'T FROM LARA TRUMP. IT WAS E-MAILED FROM THE
    IT WAS E-MAILED FROM THE CAMPAIGN.
    CAMPAIGN. >> FROM THE CAMPAIGN.
    >> FROM THE CAMPAIGN. >> YES.
    >> YES. >> AND I WANT TO PUT UP THE
    >> AND I WANT TO PUT UP THE NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT HERE.
    NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT HERE. IT IS A VERY STRINGENT ONE.
    IT IS A VERY STRINGENT ONE. IT SAID THIS, THE NO
    IT SAID THIS, THE NO DISPARAGEMENT CLAUSE DURING THE
    DISPARAGEMENT CLAUSE DURING THE TERM OF YOUR SERVICE AND AFTER,
    TERM OF YOUR SERVICE AND AFTER, YOU AGREE NOT TO DISPARAGE THE
    YOU AGREE NOT TO DISPARAGE THE CAMPAIGN.
    CAMPAIGN. MR. TRUMP, MR. PENCE.
    MR. TRUMP, MR. PENCE. ANY TRUMP OR PENCE COMPANY.
    ANY TRUMP OR PENCE COMPANY. ANY TRUMP OR PENCE FAMILY
    ANY TRUMP OR PENCE FAMILY MEMBER.
    MEMBER. ANY TRUMP OR PENCE FAMILY MEMBER
    ANY TRUMP OR PENCE FAMILY MEMBER COMPANY OR AN ASSET, ANY OF THE
    COMPANY OR AN ASSET, ANY OF THE FOREGOING -- BY THE WAY TO AVOID
    FOREGOING -- BY THE WAY TO AVOID ANY DOUBT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
    ANY DOUBT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAPH, YOU AGREE THAT THIS SHALL
    GRAPH, YOU AGREE THAT THIS SHALL SURVIVE THE TERMINATION OF THIS
    SURVIVE THE TERMINATION OF THIS AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH
    AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH 10.
    10. DID YOU THINK THEY WERE OFFERING
    DID YOU THINK THEY WERE OFFERING YOU A REAL JOB ON THE CAMPAIGN
    YOU A REAL JOB ON THE CAMPAIGN OR DID THEY WANT YOU TO SIGN
    OR DID THEY WANT YOU TO SIGN THIS AGREEMENT?
    THIS AGREEMENT? >> THEY WERE NOT OFFERING A REAL
    >> THEY WERE NOT OFFERING A REAL JOB.
    JOB. THEY TOLD ME I COULD WORK FROM
    THEY TOLD ME I COULD WORK FROM HOME IF I WANTED TO WORK.
    HOME IF I WANTED TO WORK. THEY DIDN'T REALLY CARE IF I
    THEY DIDN'T REALLY CARE IF I SHOWED UP.
    SHOWED UP. IN FACT, THERE ARE SEVERAL
    IN FACT, THERE ARE SEVERAL FORMER EMPLOYEES FROM THE WHITE
    FORMER EMPLOYEES FROM THE WHITE HOUSE WHO ACTUALLY SIGNED THIS
    HOUSE WHO ACTUALLY SIGNED THIS AGREEMENT.
    AGREEMENT. WHO ARE ALL BEING PAID $15,000
    WHO ARE ALL BEING PAID $15,000 FOR THEIR SILENCE.
    FOR THEIR SILENCE. THE ONLY REASON "UNHINGED" --
    THE ONLY REASON "UNHINGED" -- >> YOU BELIEVE ALL THE PEOPLE ON
    >> YOU BELIEVE ALL THE PEOPLE ON THE CAMPAIGN ARE BEING -- THAT
    THE CAMPAIGN ARE BEING -- THAT LEFT THE WEST WING OF THE
    LEFT THE WEST WING OF THE CAMPAIGN ARE BEING BOUGHT OFF?
    CAMPAIGN ARE BEING BOUGHT OFF? >> ABSOLUTELY.
    >> ABSOLUTELY. THE CAMPAIGN THE RNC AND WHICH
    THE CAMPAIGN THE RNC AND WHICH IS WHY SEAN SPICER DESCRIBED THE
    IS WHY SEAN SPICER DESCRIBED THE PRESIDENT AS A UNICORN JUMPING
    PRESIDENT AS A UNICORN JUMPING OVER RAINBOWS.
    OVER RAINBOWS. HE SIGNED THIS AGREEMENT.
    HE SIGNED THIS AGREEMENT. >> YOU READ "THE ART OF THE
    >> YOU READ "THE ART OF THE DEAL" AND HE SAID THE FINAL KEY
    DEAL" AND HE SAID THE FINAL KEY IS THE WAY I PROMOTE IS BRA HAVE
    IS THE WAY I PROMOTE IS BRA HAVE A DOE.
    A DOE. I CALL IT WHY BER BOLEY.
    I CALL IT WHY BER BOLEY. WHEN YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP
    WHEN YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP CHEWING UP A PIECE OF PAIN, IS
    CHEWING UP A PIECE OF PAIN, IS THIS HYPERBOLE?
    THIS HYPERBOLE? >> NO, PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASKING
    >> NO, PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASKING WHAT DID DONALD TRUMP AND
    WHAT DID DONALD TRUMP AND MICHAEL COHEN DISCUSS TO MAKE
    MICHAEL COHEN DISCUSS TO MAKE HIM SO IRRITATED TO RIP UP THE
    HIM SO IRRITATED TO RIP UP THE PAPER THAT WAS IN FRONT OF HIM
    PAPER THAT WAS IN FRONT OF HIM AND THEN PUT IT IN HIS MOUTH?
    AND THEN PUT IT IN HIS MOUTH? THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT THE
    THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD BE
    AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASKING.
    ASKING. WHAT WENT DOWN IN THE OVAL
    WHAT WENT DOWN IN THE OVAL OFFICE.
    OFFICE. >> ALL RIGHT.
    >> ALL RIGHT. WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE
    WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE BOOK?
    AWAY FROM THE BOOK? >> I NEED PERSON TO UNDERSTAND
    >> I NEED PERSON TO UNDERSTAND MY JOURNEY.
    MY JOURNEY. I TALK ABOUT GROWING UP IN THE
    I TALK ABOUT GROWING UP IN THE PROJECTS, I TALK ABOUT MY FATHER
    PROJECTS, I TALK ABOUT MY FATHER BEING MURDERED.
    BEING MURDERED. MY BEAUTIFUL MOTHER WHO ALLOWED
    MY BEAUTIFUL MOTHER WHO ALLOWED ME TO GO ON AND GET EDUCATED AND
    ME TO GO ON AND GET EDUCATED AND LIVE AN INCREDIBLE LIFE.
    LIVE AN INCREDIBLE LIFE. THIS STORY ISN'T A STORY THAT
    THIS STORY ISN'T A STORY THAT YOU WOULD HEAR IF IN FACT I
    YOU WOULD HEAR IF IN FACT I SIGNED THAT AGREEMENT.
    SIGNED THAT AGREEMENT. THIS IS A STORY THAT YOU HAVE TO
    THIS IS A STORY THAT YOU HAVE TO HEAR BECAUSE IT'S THE EMBODIMENT
    HEAR BECAUSE IT'S THE EMBODIMENT OF THE AMERICAN DREAM.
    OF THE AMERICAN DREAM. >> DO YOU REGRET AUDITIONING FOR
    >> DO YOU REGRET AUDITIONING FOR "THE APPRENTICE"?
    "THE APPRENTICE"? >> NO, IT CHANGED MY LIFE.
    >> NO, IT CHANGED MY LIFE. I WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN A CHANCE
    I WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN A CHANCE TO KNOW YOU AND OTHERS IN MY
    TO KNOW YOU AND OTHERS IN MY LIFE.
    LIFE. I DON'T REGRET IT OUT ALL.
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