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    OF MODERATE REPUBLICANS OR SHALL WE CALL THEM MORE CHAMBER OF
    WE CALL THEM MORE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PRO BUSINESS
    COMMERCE PRO BUSINESS REPUBLICANS NERVOUS.
    REPUBLICANS NERVOUS. JOINING ME NOW IS A POLITICIAN
    JOINING ME NOW IS A POLITICIAN YOU MIGHT SAY IS REPRESENTATIVE
    YOU MIGHT SAY IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT WING OF THE PARTY, MAYBE
    OF THAT WING OF THE PARTY, MAYBE THE TRUMP SKEPTIC WING OF THE
    THE TRUMP SKEPTIC WING OF THE PARTY.
    PARTY. IT'S OHIO GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH.
    IT'S OHIO GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH. HE, BY THE WAY, REPRESENTED
    HE, BY THE WAY, REPRESENTED OHIO'S 12th DISTRICT IN CONGRESS
    OHIO'S 12th DISTRICT IN CONGRESS FOR NINE TERMS.
    FOR NINE TERMS. GOVERNOR KASICH, GOOD TO SEE
    GOVERNOR KASICH, GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR.
    YOU, SIR. >> YEAH, I ALSO AS GOVERNOR HAD
    >> YEAH, I ALSO AS GOVERNOR HAD A WIN IN THOSE AREAS TOO.
    A WIN IN THOSE AREAS TOO. >> YES, YOU DID THAT.
    >> YES, YOU DID THAT. >> I'M NOT SOME CHAMBER OF
    >> I'M NOT SOME CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TYPE -- LOOK, I'M A
    COMMERCE TYPE -- LOOK, I'M A POSITIVE PAUSEOPULIST.
    POSITIVE PAUSEOPULIST. >> I KNOW YOU ARE.
    >> I KNOW YOU ARE. >> COME ON, DON'T BE DEFINING ME
    >> COME ON, DON'T BE DEFINING ME THAT WAY.
    THAT WAY. >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
    >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A SLICE OF THE
    THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A SLICE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY YOU SPEAK TO
    REPUBLICAN PARTY YOU SPEAK TO BETTER THAN DONALD TRUMP DOES.
    BETTER THAN DONALD TRUMP DOES. AND IT'S THIS SLICE OF THE
    AND IT'S THIS SLICE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT SEEMS TO
    REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT SEEMS TO BE WAVERING ON HIM.
    BE WAVERING ON HIM. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT?
    IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? >> CHUCK, THERE'S NO QUESTION
    >> CHUCK, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT PEOPLE SENT A MESSAGE TO
    THAT PEOPLE SENT A MESSAGE TO THE PARTY, TO REPUBLICANS, KNOCK
    THE PARTY, TO REPUBLICANS, KNOCK IT OFF.
    IT OFF. THE CHAOS, THE DIVISIONS, I MEAN
    THE CHAOS, THE DIVISIONS, I MEAN KIDS BEING SEPARATED FROM THEIR
    KIDS BEING SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS AT THE BORDER.
    PARENTS AT THE BORDER. THESE CRAZY TARIFFS.
    THESE CRAZY TARIFFS. HEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOUR
    HEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOUR HEALTH CARE.
    HEALTH CARE. WE'RE GOING TO KILL OBAMACARE,
    WE'RE GOING TO KILL OBAMACARE, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
    WHICH MEANS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY HEALTH CARE.
    HAVE ANY HEALTH CARE. OR IF YOU HAVE A PRE-EXISTING
    OR IF YOU HAVE A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION, WELL, YOU MIGHT BE
    CONDITION, WELL, YOU MIGHT BE OUT OF LUCK.
    OUT OF LUCK. THIS IS KIND OF WHAT GETS
    THIS IS KIND OF WHAT GETS COMMUNICATED.
    COMMUNICATED. AND WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE, I
    AND WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE, I CANNOT DESCRIBE TO YOU HOW
    CANNOT DESCRIBE TO YOU HOW AMAZING IT WAS THAT THE RACE WAS
    AMAZING IT WAS THAT THE RACE WAS CLOSE BECAUSE THIS DELAWARE
    CLOSE BECAUSE THIS DELAWARE COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE --
    COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE -- >> EXPLAIN THAT.
    >> EXPLAIN THAT. >> WELL, THE REPUBLICAN IN
    >> WELL, THE REPUBLICAN IN DELAWARE COUNTY WOULD NORMALLY
    DELAWARE COUNTY WOULD NORMALLY GET ABOUT 70% OF THE VOTE.
    GET ABOUT 70% OF THE VOTE. THIS WAS LIKE 50-50.
    THIS WAS LIKE 50-50. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT HOW DONALD
    AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT HOW DONALD TRUMP DID IN THE GENERAL IN
    TRUMP DID IN THE GENERAL IN DELAWARE COUNTY, HE PROBABLY GOT
    DELAWARE COUNTY, HE PROBABLY GOT AROUND, I DON'T KNOW, 65 OR 70.
    AROUND, I DON'T KNOW, 65 OR 70. BUT THEN THIS CANDIDATE GETS
    BUT THEN THIS CANDIDATE GETS 50%.
    50%. AND IT'S BECAUSE A LOT OF
    AND IT'S BECAUSE A LOT OF REPUBLICAN WOMEN, THEY DON'T
    REPUBLICAN WOMEN, THEY DON'T LIKE THIS NOISE.
    LIKE THIS NOISE. THEY DON'T LIKE THIS DIVISION.
    THEY DON'T LIKE THIS DIVISION. IT WAS INTERESTING WHAT ONE OF
    IT WAS INTERESTING WHAT ONE OF YOUR PANELISTS SAID ABOUT THE
    YOUR PANELISTS SAID ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE WHO IS NOT
    DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE WHO IS NOT THAT FORCEFUL.
    THAT FORCEFUL. HE WAS JUST NOT -- NEITHER OF
    HE WAS JUST NOT -- NEITHER OF THEM REALLY EMERGED GREAT.
    THEM REALLY EMERGED GREAT. I THINK IT WAS BASICALLY A VOTE
    I THINK IT WAS BASICALLY A VOTE ON WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT ABOUT
    ON WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT ABOUT TRUMP.
    TRUMP. >> THAT'S INTERESTING YOU SAY
    >> THAT'S INTERESTING YOU SAY THAT.
    THAT. I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THAT
    I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THAT YOU COULD CHARACTERIZE THIS
    YOU COULD CHARACTERIZE THIS RACE, THIS IS NO PERSONAL KNOCK
    RACE, THIS IS NO PERSONAL KNOCK AGAINST EITHER CANDIDATE, BUT
    AGAINST EITHER CANDIDATE, BUT THAT MANY VOTERS SAW IT AS
    THAT MANY VOTERS SAW IT AS GENERIC DEMOCRAT VERSUS GENERIC
    GENERIC DEMOCRAT VERSUS GENERIC REPUBLICAN.
    REPUBLICAN. IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT IN
    IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT IN YOUR VIEW?
    YOUR VIEW? >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT
    >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, CHUCK, BUT HERE'S WHAT I
    MEANS, CHUCK, BUT HERE'S WHAT I DO KNOW.
    DO KNOW. I KNOW THAT IN AREAS, SUBURBS
    I KNOW THAT IN AREAS, SUBURBS PARTICULARLY WHERE REPUBLICANS
    PARTICULARLY WHERE REPUBLICANS WOULD WIN, THE REPUBLICAN LOST.
    WOULD WIN, THE REPUBLICAN LOST. I KNOW THAT THERE WERE THESE
    I KNOW THAT THERE WERE THESE REPUBLICAN WOMEN THAT I'VE HEARD
    REPUBLICAN WOMEN THAT I'VE HEARD TALKING WHENEVER I'M OUT AND
    TALKING WHENEVER I'M OUT AND ABOUT, THEY JUST WERE EITHER NOT
    ABOUT, THEY JUST WERE EITHER NOT GOING TO VOTE OR THEY WERE GOING
    GOING TO VOTE OR THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT.
    TO VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT. WE MAY BE IN THE BEGINNING OF
    WE MAY BE IN THE BEGINNING OF ENTERING IN SOME WAYS A POST
    ENTERING IN SOME WAYS A POST PARTISAN ENVIRONMENT WHERE
    PARTISAN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STOP
    PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STOP LISTENING SO MUCH TO THE PARTY
    LISTENING SO MUCH TO THE PARTY AND START TAKING THE MEASURE OF
    AND START TAKING THE MEASURE OF WHAT THEY'RE SEEING.
    WHAT THEY'RE SEEING. I MEAN IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING
    I MEAN IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING TIME.
    TIME. BUT IF YOU'RE NOT POSITIVE, IF
    BUT IF YOU'RE NOT POSITIVE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VISION, IF YOU
    YOU DON'T HAVE A VISION, IF YOU DON'T UNITE PEOPLE, IF YOU DON'T
    DON'T UNITE PEOPLE, IF YOU DON'T LIFT PEOPLE AND YOU'RE NOT AN
    LIFT PEOPLE AND YOU'RE NOT AN IDEA CANDIDATE, YOU'RE GOING TO
    IDEA CANDIDATE, YOU'RE GOING TO STRUGGLE AND MAYBE LOSE.
    STRUGGLE AND MAYBE LOSE. >> YOU ON ANOTHER SUNDAY SHOW, A
    >> YOU ON ANOTHER SUNDAY SHOW, A FINE BROADCAST, YOU MADE
    FINE BROADCAST, YOU MADE MENTION, YOU SAID YOU HAD A
    MENTION, YOU SAID YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH TROY BALDERSON
    CONVERSATION WITH TROY BALDERSON GOING WHY DID YOU ASK PRESIDENT
    GOING WHY DID YOU ASK PRESIDENT TRUMP TO COME IN?
    TRUMP TO COME IN? AND THEN YOU SAID HE DIDN'T.
    AND THEN YOU SAID HE DIDN'T. WHERE DO YOU FALL?
    WHERE DO YOU FALL? DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
    DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP'S APPEARANCE ON SATURDAY HELPED
    APPEARANCE ON SATURDAY HELPED O'CONNOR, HELPED BALDERSON, OR
    O'CONNOR, HELPED BALDERSON, OR WAS IT ALREADY BAKED IN?
    WAS IT ALREADY BAKED IN? >> YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK, CHUCK,
    >> YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK, CHUCK, IS I THINK THE ATTENTION OF THE
    IS I THINK THE ATTENTION OF THE NATIONAL MEDIA GOT MORE PEOPLE
    NATIONAL MEDIA GOT MORE PEOPLE TO VOTE.
    TO VOTE. I THINK THAT HAPPENED.
    I THINK THAT HAPPENED. I THINK THAT THE FACT THAT THERE
    I THINK THAT THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A FOCUS.
    WAS A FOCUS. >> LEFT OR RIGHT, DO YOU KNOW
    >> LEFT OR RIGHT, DO YOU KNOW WHICH WAY?
    WHICH WAY? DO YOU KNOW WHICH WAY?
    DO YOU KNOW WHICH WAY? >> NO, I THINK IT JUST GOT
    >> NO, I THINK IT JUST GOT PEOPLE.
    PEOPLE. BUT YOU SEE, AGAIN, THERE WERE
    BUT YOU SEE, AGAIN, THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP WHO
    PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP WHO NOW ARE EITHER NOT VOTING OR
    NOW ARE EITHER NOT VOTING OR VOTING FOR THE DEMOCRAT OR, YOU
    VOTING FOR THE DEMOCRAT OR, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE SOME
    KNOW, YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE SOME OF THESE DEMOCRATS WHO KIND OF
    OF THESE DEMOCRATS WHO KIND OF SUPPORTED TRUMP WHO KIND OF GO
    SUPPORTED TRUMP WHO KIND OF GO BACK TO THEIR PARTY, I THINK,
    BACK TO THEIR PARTY, I THINK, HERE.
    HERE. BUT THIS WAS SO CLOSE AND SO
    BUT THIS WAS SO CLOSE AND SO STUNNINGLY CLOSE IN A
    STUNNINGLY CLOSE IN A DISTRICT -- LOOK, THE
    DISTRICT -- LOOK, THE CONGRESSMAN THAT WAS THERE
    CONGRESSMAN THAT WAS THERE BEFORE IT IN THE LAST ELECTION
    BEFORE IT IN THE LAST ELECTION WON BY 17 POINTS.
    WON BY 17 POINTS. THIS IS A MORE AND MORE
    THIS IS A MORE AND MORE REPUBLICAN DISTRICT THAN WHEN I
    REPUBLICAN DISTRICT THAN WHEN I HAD IT, MUCH MORE REPUBLICAN.
    HAD IT, MUCH MORE REPUBLICAN. YOU KNOW, EVEN IN A SPECIAL
    YOU KNOW, EVEN IN A SPECIAL ELECTION, THERE WERE MORE VOTES
    ELECTION, THERE WERE MORE VOTES IN THIS SPECIAL ELECTION THAN
    IN THIS SPECIAL ELECTION THAN PEOPLE HAD ANTICIPATED.
    PEOPLE HAD ANTICIPATED. BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU -- HERE'S
    BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU -- HERE'S THE CHALLENGE FOR THE
    THE CHALLENGE FOR THE REPUBLICANS.
    REPUBLICANS. IF YOU ARE LOSING COLLEGE
    IF YOU ARE LOSING COLLEGE EDUCATED WOMEN, IF YOU ARE
    EDUCATED WOMEN, IF YOU ARE LOSING MILLENIALS, IF YOU ARE
    LOSING MILLENIALS, IF YOU ARE LOSING MINORITIES BECAUSE YOU'RE
    LOSING MINORITIES BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GETTING MUCH OF THAT VOTE AT
    NOT GETTING MUCH OF THAT VOTE AT ALL, YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM.
    ALL, YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM. THE DEMOCRAT PROBLEM, THE
    THE DEMOCRAT PROBLEM, THE QUESTION IS THEY NEED TO BE MORE
    QUESTION IS THEY NEED TO BE MORE CENTER LEFT.
    CENTER LEFT. THEY'RE WAY OUT ON THE LEFT.
    THEY'RE WAY OUT ON THE LEFT. NOW, THIS GUY WASN'T.
    NOW, THIS GUY WASN'T. THIS GUY WHO RAN HERE WASN'T AND
    THIS GUY WHO RAN HERE WASN'T AND IT'S GOING TO BE HOW FOR OTHER
    IT'S GOING TO BE HOW FOR OTHER DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE MORE
    DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE MORE MODERATE.
    MODERATE. >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
    >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IT SEEMS LIKE SOME REPUBLICANS
    IT SEEMS LIKE SOME REPUBLICANS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE MAKEUP OF
    SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE MAKEUP OF THEIR DISTRICTS, AND I THINK
    THEIR DISTRICTS, AND I THINK THAT THIS DISTRICT PROVED EXTRA
    THAT THIS DISTRICT PROVED EXTRA CHALLENGING TO MR. BALDERSON,
    CHALLENGING TO MR. BALDERSON, WHICH IS TO APPEAL TO THE TRUMP
    WHICH IS TO APPEAL TO THE TRUMP BASE TO GET THEM FIRED UP, YOU
    BASE TO GET THEM FIRED UP, YOU ACTUALLY TURN OFF THE DELAWARE
    ACTUALLY TURN OFF THE DELAWARE COUNTY SUBURBAN VOTER, AND TO
    COUNTY SUBURBAN VOTER, AND TO CONVINCE THEM TO COME TO YOU,
    CONVINCE THEM TO COME TO YOU, YOU MIGHT TURN OFF THE TRUMP
    YOU MIGHT TURN OFF THE TRUMP BASE.
    BASE. IS THAT WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS
    IS THAT WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS CREATED HERE, WHERE A CANDIDATE
    CREATED HERE, WHERE A CANDIDATE HAS TO MAKE THIS BASICALLY
    HAS TO MAKE THIS BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE?
    IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE? >> OKAY, CHUCK, CHUCK, IF YOU'RE
    >> OKAY, CHUCK, CHUCK, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE A CANDIDATE, WHY
    GOING TO BE A CANDIDATE, WHY DON'T YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE
    DON'T YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE FOR.
    FOR. >> TUCHOUCHE.
    >> TUCHOUCHE. >> LET'S NOT DO ALL THESE
    >> LET'S NOT DO ALL THESE CALCULATIONS LIKE YOU'RE IN A
    CALCULATIONS LIKE YOU'RE IN A LABORATORY AND YOU'VE GOT THESE
    LABORATORY AND YOU'VE GOT THESE TEST TUBES.
    TEST TUBES. FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE FOR.
    FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE FOR. IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, WHY WOULD
    IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO WIN?
    YOU WANT TO WIN? WHY WOULD YOU RUN IF YOU DON'T
    WHY WOULD YOU RUN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PASSION FOR WHAT YOU WANT
    HAVE A PASSION FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH?
    TO ACCOMPLISH? AND SO MY ADVICE TO CANDIDATES,
    AND SO MY ADVICE TO CANDIDATES, I HAD A DEMOCRAT COME IN TO SEE
    I HAD A DEMOCRAT COME IN TO SEE ME.
    ME. WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO.
    WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO. I SAID YOU HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF
    I SAID YOU HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF YOUR BASE BUT MAKE SURE
    YOUR BASE BUT MAKE SURE REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENTS
    REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENTS HAVE RESPECT FOR YOU AND THAT
    HAVE RESPECT FOR YOU AND THAT THEY LIKE YOU AND THAT MEANS
    THEY LIKE YOU AND THAT MEANS THAT YOU CONDUCT YOURSELF IN A
    THAT YOU CONDUCT YOURSELF IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN IF YOU'RE
    DIFFERENT WAY THAN IF YOU'RE JUST REPORTING TO THE PARTY
    JUST REPORTING TO THE PARTY APPARATUS.
    APPARATUS. FORGET IT, I'VE NEVER DONE THAT.
    FORGET IT, I'VE NEVER DONE THAT. IN MY RE-ELECTION, CHUCK, I
    IN MY RE-ELECTION, CHUCK, I NEVER ATTACKED BARACK OBAMA.
    NEVER ATTACKED BARACK OBAMA. I TALKED ABOUT HEALTH CARE, I
    I TALKED ABOUT HEALTH CARE, I TALKED ABOUT JOB GROWTH.
    TALKED ABOUT JOB GROWTH. I WON 86 OUT OF 88 COUNTIES IN
    I WON 86 OUT OF 88 COUNTIES IN THIS STATE.
    THIS STATE. SO THAT'S THE MESSAGE FOR
    SO THAT'S THE MESSAGE FOR POLITICIANS IN THESE.
    POLITICIANS IN THESE. BE YOURSELF, HAVE A VISION, SAY
    BE YOURSELF, HAVE A VISION, SAY WHAT IT IS AND TRY TO BE IN
    WHAT IT IS AND TRY TO BE IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE.
    TOUCH WITH PEOPLE. >> IS THERE ANY -- YOU'RE NOT
    >> IS THERE ANY -- YOU'RE NOT AFRAID OF SAYING WHEN YOU
    AFRAID OF SAYING WHEN YOU DISAGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT AND
    DISAGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT AND YOU'RE PRETTY TOUGH ON HIM.
    YOU'RE PRETTY TOUGH ON HIM. YOU'RE TOUGH ON THE ENVIRONMENT
    YOU'RE TOUGH ON THE ENVIRONMENT THAT'S BEEN CREATED RIGHT NOW
    THAT'S BEEN CREATED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF SOME OF HIS POLICY
    BECAUSE OF SOME OF HIS POLICY CHOICES.
    CHOICES. >> YEAH.
    >> YEAH. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T ENDORSE HIM
    THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T ENDORSE HIM BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVITY.
    BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVITY. >> MANY REPUBLICANS ARE AFRAID
    >> MANY REPUBLICANS ARE AFRAID OF MAKING THAT CONTRAST.
    OF MAKING THAT CONTRAST. DO YOU THINK THAT IS MAKING
    DO YOU THINK THAT IS MAKING IT -- THAT IS WHY THE SWING
    IT -- THAT IS WHY THE SWING SUBURBAN VOTER IS HESITANT TO
    SUBURBAN VOTER IS HESITANT TO TRUST A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR
    TRUST A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR CONGRESS, THAT THEY'RE NOT
    CONGRESS, THAT THEY'RE NOT AFRAID TO SAY ABOUT THE
    AFRAID TO SAY ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S POLICIES WHAT YOU
    PRESIDENT'S POLICIES WHAT YOU ARE DOING?
    ARE DOING? >> YEAH, BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD
    >> YEAH, BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM PERSONALITY.
    STAY AWAY FROM PERSONALITY. THIS IS NOT ABOUT ATTACKING THE
    THIS IS NOT ABOUT ATTACKING THE PRESIDENT FOR HIS PERSONALITY,
    PRESIDENT FOR HIS PERSONALITY, THIS IS ABOUT ISSUES.
    THIS IS ABOUT ISSUES. WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS IF
    WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS IF YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN, WHY AREN'T
    YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN, WHY AREN'T YOU STANDING UP AND SAYING IF
    YOU STANDING UP AND SAYING IF YOU HAVE A PRE-EXISTING
    YOU HAVE A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION ON HEALTH CARE, WE'RE
    CONDITION ON HEALTH CARE, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE ABLE
    GOING TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE ABLE TO GET HEALTH CARE.
    TO GET HEALTH CARE. IF THE PRESIDENT SAYS NO, WHY
    IF THE PRESIDENT SAYS NO, WHY ARE YOU PUTTING UP WITH THAT?
    ARE YOU PUTTING UP WITH THAT? WHEN YOU SEE FAMILY SEPARATION
    WHEN YOU SEE FAMILY SEPARATION AT THE BORDER, WHY DON'T YOU SAY
    AT THE BORDER, WHY DON'T YOU SAY IT'S WRONG?
    IT'S WRONG? AND THESE TARIFFS, OR WHEN WE'RE
    AND THESE TARIFFS, OR WHEN WE'RE OVERSEAS AND WE'RE INTO THIS
    OVERSEAS AND WE'RE INTO THIS WRECKING BALL FOREIGN POLICY,
    WRECKING BALL FOREIGN POLICY, JUST SAY YOU DON'T AGREE WITH
    JUST SAY YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT.
    IT. IF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT, FIRST
    IF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'VE
    OF ALL, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT TO CATER TO ANYBODY TO WIN.
    GOT TO CATER TO ANYBODY TO WIN. >> RIGHT.
    >> RIGHT. >> I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO BE WHO
    >> I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO BE WHO YOU ARE AND SAY WHAT YOU
    YOU ARE AND SAY WHAT YOU BELIEVE.
    BELIEVE. CHUCK, IF YOU DON'T WIN, GUESS
    CHUCK, IF YOU DON'T WIN, GUESS WHAT, YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER LIFE
    WHAT, YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER LIFE THAN IF YOU DO.
    THAN IF YOU DO. THAT'S THE DIRTY LITTLE SECRET
    THAT'S THE DIRTY LITTLE SECRET IN POLITICS.
    IN POLITICS. >> BEFORE I LET YOU GO, YOUR
    >> BEFORE I LET YOU GO, YOUR BELOVED OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY IS
    BELOVED OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY IS IN A TOUGH POSITION RIGHT NOW.
    IN A TOUGH POSITION RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A SEXUAL ABUSE
    THERE'S A SEXUAL ABUSE INVESTIGATION INVOLVING THE
    INVESTIGATION INVOLVING THE WRESTLING PROGRAM, THE URBAN
    WRESTLING PROGRAM, THE URBAN MEYER SITUATION WHERE IT IS DID
    MEYER SITUATION WHERE IT IS DID HE DO ENOUGH LOOKING OUT FOR
    HE DO ENOUGH LOOKING OUT FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S A VICTIM OF
    SOMEBODY WHO'S A VICTIM OF SPOUSAL ABUSE.
    SPOUSAL ABUSE. DO YOU THINK THERE'S A CULTURAL
    DO YOU THINK THERE'S A CULTURAL PROBLEM IN THE OHIO STATE
    PROBLEM IN THE OHIO STATE ATHLETIC PROGRAM?
    ATHLETIC PROGRAM? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S
    >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S FIND OUT WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT
    FIND OUT WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT COACH MEYER.
    COACH MEYER. THEY NOW HAVE MARY JO WHITE IS
    THEY NOW HAVE MARY JO WHITE IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
    MY UNDERSTANDING. >> DO YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT
    >> DO YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THIS INVESTIGATION WILL BE FAIR?
    THIS INVESTIGATION WILL BE FAIR? >> OH, IN TERMS OF URBAN MEYER,
    >> OH, IN TERMS OF URBAN MEYER, THE ANSWER IS YES.
    THE ANSWER IS YES. NOW, THE WRESTLING PROBLEM AND
    NOW, THE WRESTLING PROBLEM AND THE DIVING PROBLEM, CHUCK, IT
    THE DIVING PROBLEM, CHUCK, IT WAS AT LEAST A YEAR, MAYBE TWO
    WAS AT LEAST A YEAR, MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO WHEN I ASKED MY PEOPLE
    YEARS AGO WHEN I ASKED MY PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE
    TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE UNIVERSITY THAT STUDENTS HAVE A
    UNIVERSITY THAT STUDENTS HAVE A PLACE TO GO THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL
    PLACE TO GO THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL WHEN THEY CAN REPORT EITHER AN
    WHEN THEY CAN REPORT EITHER AN ASSAULT ON THEM BECAUSE THEY MAY
    ASSAULT ON THEM BECAUSE THEY MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT PROSECUTING
    WANT TO THINK ABOUT PROSECUTING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE
    A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD OR A PLACE THEY CAN GO
    ROAD OR A PLACE THEY CAN GO WHERE THEY CAN BLOW THE WHISTLE
    WHERE THEY CAN BLOW THE WHISTLE AND HAVE CONFIDENTIALITY.
    AND HAVE CONFIDENTIALITY. AND WE HAVE ASKED THE
    AND WE HAVE ASKED THE UNIVERSITIES TO BE ABLE TO SET
    UNIVERSITIES TO BE ABLE TO SET THIS UP.
    THIS UP. MANY OF THEM ARE MOVING IN THAT
    MANY OF THEM ARE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE
    DIRECTION, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE.
    WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE. BUT THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE
    BUT THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE ACROSS THIS COUNTRY FOR A
    ACROSS THIS COUNTRY FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME.
    SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME. AND THE UNIVERSITIES HAVE TO
    AND THE UNIVERSITIES HAVE TO MAKE THIS A PRIORITY.
    MAKE THIS A PRIORITY. I'VE GOT TWO DAUGHTERS GETTING
    I'VE GOT TWO DAUGHTERS GETTING READY TO GO TO COLLEGE HERE.
    READY TO GO TO COLLEGE HERE. ONE WE TAKE ON SUNDAY AND ONE
    ONE WE TAKE ON SUNDAY AND ONE THREE WEEKS LATER.
    THREE WEEKS LATER. I WANT THEM TO KNOW WHERE THEY
    I WANT THEM TO KNOW WHERE THEY CAN GO AND THEY CAN REPORT AND
    CAN GO AND THEY CAN REPORT AND THEY CAN BE SAFE AND THEY WILL
    THEY CAN BE SAFE AND THEY WILL NOT BE COMPROMISED.
    NOT BE COMPROMISED. THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE
    THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
    COUNTRY. >> WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE IF
    >> WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE IF YOUR DAUGHTERS WERE STARTING IN
    YOUR DAUGHTERS WERE STARTING IN A SPORTING PROGRAM AT THE OHIO
    A SPORTING PROGRAM AT THE OHIO STATE ATHLETIC PROGRAM THAT THEY
    STATE ATHLETIC PROGRAM THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE MISTREATED?
    WOULDN'T BE MISTREATED? >> SURE I WOULD.
    >> SURE I WOULD. I AM CONFIDENT IN THAT.
    I AM CONFIDENT IN THAT. BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UP IT.
    BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UP IT. EVERYBODY NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT
    EVERYBODY NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT AND YOU NEED TO EXAMINE IT AND
    AND YOU NEED TO EXAMINE IT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET
    THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO DO MORE AGGRESSIVELY
    THEM TO DO MORE AGGRESSIVELY ACROSS THE STATE.
    ACROSS THE STATE. OUGHT TO BE DONE ACROSS THE
    OUGHT TO BE DONE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
    COUNTRY. >> GOVERNOR KASICH, I APPRECIATE
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