U.S. Election Security Suffers For Lack Of Oval Office Leadership | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

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    JOYCE VANCE, WE ALWAYS LEARN A LOT FROM YOU.
    LOT FROM YOU. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US
    THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.
    TONIGHT. >> THANKS.
    >> THANKS. >>> NBC NEWS NATIONAL REPORTER
    >>> NBC NEWS NATIONAL REPORTER KEN DELANIAN IS REPORTING.
    KEN DELANIAN IS REPORTING. HIS STORY HEADLINING, THE TRUMP
    HIS STORY HEADLINING, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS NO CENTRAL
    ADMINISTRATION HAS NO CENTRAL STRATEGY FOR ELECTION SECURITY
    STRATEGY FOR ELECTION SECURITY AND NO ONE IS IN CHARGE.
    AND NO ONE IS IN CHARGE. KEN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME
    KEN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME TONIGHT WILL.
    TONIGHT WILL. >> GREAT TO SEE YOU.
    >> GREAT TO SEE YOU. >> YOUR STORY DIGS IN DEEPER
    >> YOUR STORY DIGS IN DEEPER THAN JUST WHAT IS BLATANT ODD
    THAN JUST WHAT IS BLATANT ODD ABOUT THIS MEETING AND ITS
    ABOUT THIS MEETING AND ITS BREVITY.
    BREVITY. WALK US THROUGH WHAT FORMER AND
    WALK US THROUGH WHAT FORMER AND CURRENT OFFICIALS ARE TELLING
    CURRENT OFFICIALS ARE TELLING YOU.
    YOU. >> YEAH.
    >> YEAH. THIS IS NOT SOME GREAT SCOOP.
    THIS IS NOT SOME GREAT SCOOP. THIS IS SIMPLY TALKING TO FOLKS
    THIS IS SIMPLY TALKING TO FOLKS AND LISTENING TO CABINET
    AND LISTENING TO CABINET OFFICIALS TALK MANY PUBLIC ABOUT
    OFFICIALS TALK MANY PUBLIC ABOUT THEIR EFFORTS TO COMBAT FOREIGN
    THEIR EFFORTS TO COMBAT FOREIGN ELECTION INTERFERENCE.
    ELECTION INTERFERENCE. WHAT THEY SAY, THE DEPARTMENT
    WHAT THEY SAY, THE DEPARTMENT HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY WITH
    HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY WITH OUR OWN PETER ALEXANDER IN ASPEN
    OUR OWN PETER ALEXANDER IN ASPEN TALKED ABOUT THE THINGS DHS IS
    TALKED ABOUT THE THINGS DHS IS DOING, WORKING WITH THE STATES
    DOING, WORKING WITH THE STATES ON ELECTION SECURITY.
    ON ELECTION SECURITY. THEN SHE SAID, THAT'S NOT
    THEN SHE SAID, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.
    ENOUGH. WE REALLY NEED THE WHOLE OF
    WE REALLY NEED THE WHOLE OF GOVERNMENT STRATEGY.
    GOVERNMENT STRATEGY. WHAT SHE DIDN'T SAY THERE ISN'T
    WHAT SHE DIDN'T SAY THERE ISN'T ONE.
    ONE. THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY YOU TALK
    THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY YOU TALK ON HAS SAID.
    ON HAS SAID. I WAS FLABBERGASTED WHEN THEY
    I WAS FLABBERGASTED WHEN THEY SAID THERE HAS BEEN SUCH A
    SAID THERE HAS BEEN SUCH A STRATEGY WHEN THE WHITE HOUSE
    STRATEGY WHEN THE WHITE HOUSE TOOK OFFICE.
    TOOK OFFICE. I HAVEN'T FOUND ANYONE WHO HAS
    I HAVEN'T FOUND ANYONE WHO HAS SEEN THE STRATEGY BUT I'VE
    SEEN THE STRATEGY BUT I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
    TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SAID NO SUCH STRATEGY EXISTS.
    SAID NO SUCH STRATEGY EXISTS. THE FBI IS DOING THINGS.
    THE FBI IS DOING THINGS. THEY'VE CREATED A FOREIGN
    THEY'VE CREATED A FOREIGN INFLUENCE TASK FORCE.
    INFLUENCE TASK FORCE. THEY ARE TRYING TO FOCUS THIS
    THEY ARE TRYING TO FOCUS THIS PROBLEM OF THE RUSSIANS AND
    PROBLEM OF THE RUSSIANS AND OTHERS INTERFERING IN OUR
    OTHERS INTERFERING IN OUR POLITICS.
    POLITICS. THE RUSSIANS ON ON SOCIAL MEDIA
    THE RUSSIANS ON ON SOCIAL MEDIA AS WE SPEAK MANIPULATING IT.
    AS WE SPEAK MANIPULATING IT. THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY HAS
    THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY HAS SAID THEY'RE STEPPING UP THEIR
    SAID THEY'RE STEPPING UP THEIR EFFORTS IN CYBERSPACE.
    EFFORTS IN CYBERSPACE. MOST OF THAT IS SECRET.
    MOST OF THAT IS SECRET. WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS ANYTHING
    WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS ANYTHING THAT KNITS IT TOGETHER.
    THAT KNITS IT TOGETHER. WE HAVE NO LEADERSHIP FROM THE
    WE HAVE NO LEADERSHIP FROM THE OVAL OFFICE AND THIS REALLY
    OVAL OFFICE AND THIS REALLY REQUIRES IT.
    REQUIRES IT. THERE ARE SOME REALLY HARD
    THERE ARE SOME REALLY HARD PROBLEMS.
    PROBLEMS. LIKE THE RUSSIANS PLAYING ON
    LIKE THE RUSSIANS PLAYING ON TWITTER AND FACEBOOK.
    TWITTER AND FACEBOOK. THOSE ARE PRIVATE COMPANIES.
    THOSE ARE PRIVATE COMPANIES. FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES AT MAY.
    FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES AT MAY. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES
    THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES IN LAW OR POLICY ISSUES.
    IN LAW OR POLICY ISSUES. WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE
    WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH LEADERSHIP ON
    EXECUTIVE BRANCH LEADERSHIP ON THIS, YOU REALLY LOSE THE POWER
    THIS, YOU REALLY LOSE THE POWER OF THE FULL FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
    OF THE FULL FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YOU HAVE DIFFERENT AGENCIES
    YOU HAVE DIFFERENT AGENCIES TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY CAN.
    TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY CAN. AND DON'T FORGET, SOME OF THESE
    AND DON'T FORGET, SOME OF THESE OFFICIALS TESTIFIED TO CONGRESS
    OFFICIALS TESTIFIED TO CONGRESS INCLUDING CHRIS WRAY, THE FBI
    INCLUDING CHRIS WRAY, THE FBI DIRECTOR, THAT THEY HAD NEVER
    DIRECTOR, THAT THEY HAD NEVER BEEN ASKED BY THE PRESIDENT TO
    BEEN ASKED BY THE PRESIDENT TO TACKLE ELECTION ISSUES.
    TACKLE ELECTION ISSUES. SO IT IS HARD TO SAY WHAT THEY
    SO IT IS HARD TO SAY WHAT THEY MEAN WHEN THEY SAY THEY'VE HAD A
    MEAN WHEN THEY SAY THEY'VE HAD A STRATEGY FROM DAY ONE.
    STRATEGY FROM DAY ONE. >> AND THERE ARE ALL THESE
    >> AND THERE ARE ALL THESE DIFFERENT STATES INVOLVED.
    DIFFERENT STATES INVOLVED. WE HAVE A SYSTEM TO
    WE HAVE A SYSTEM TO DECENTRALIZE.
    DECENTRALIZE. THERE WAS A PROPOSAL IN THE
    THERE WAS A PROPOSAL IN THE HOUSE TO PUT $380 MILLION INTO
    HOUSE TO PUT $380 MILLION INTO STATE EFFORTS TO COMBAT THIS.
    STATE EFFORTS TO COMBAT THIS. THAT WAS DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS
    THAT WAS DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS THIS.
    THIS. HOW MUCH DOES THIS EFFORT ALSO
    HOW MUCH DOES THIS EFFORT ALSO REQUIRE UPGRADING WHAT STATES
    REQUIRE UPGRADING WHAT STATES CAN HANDLE IN THE MUELLER
    CAN HANDLE IN THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION HAS REVEALED, HOW
    INVESTIGATION HAS REVEALED, HOW THESE COUNTRY-BACKED EFFORTS ARE
    THESE COUNTRY-BACKED EFFORTS ARE GOING AFTER INDIVIDUAL STATES
    GOING AFTER INDIVIDUAL STATES THAT MAY NOT HAVE THE CYBER
    THAT MAY NOT HAVE THE CYBER KNOW-HOW?
    KNOW-HOW? >> YEAH.
    >> YEAH. EVERY STATE OFFICIAL YOU TALK ON
    EVERY STATE OFFICIAL YOU TALK ON SAYS THEY NEED MORE MONEY, THEY
    SAYS THEY NEED MORE MONEY, THEY NEED UPGRADED TECHNOLOGY, MORE
    NEED UPGRADED TECHNOLOGY, MORE RESOURCES.
    RESOURCES. I THINK THAT WHILE THE SORT OF
    I THINK THAT WHILE THE SORT OF VULNERABILITIES OF STATE
    VULNERABILITIES OF STATE ELECTION SYSTEMS ARE TROUBLING,
    ELECTION SYSTEMS ARE TROUBLING, WHEN YOU THINK OF THE THREE WAYS
    WHEN YOU THINK OF THE THREE WAYS THE RUSSIANS ATTACKED ELECTION,
    THE RUSSIANS ATTACKED ELECTION, THEY CAN HACK INTO, THEY
    THEY CAN HACK INTO, THEY ATTEMPTED TO BREACH 21 STATES
    ATTEMPTED TO BREACH 21 STATES AND THEY GOT INTO SEVEN.
    AND THEY GOT INTO SEVEN. THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE LEAST
    THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE LEAST EFFECTIVE METHOD THAT THEY USED.
    EFFECTIVE METHOD THAT THEY USED. THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAS THEY
    THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAS THEY THAKD DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL
    THAKD DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE.
    COMMITTEE. THEY STOLE THE E-MAILS AND
    THEY STOLE THE E-MAILS AND RELEASED THEM.
    RELEASED THEM. THEN THE SECOND MOST EFFECTIVE
    THEN THE SECOND MOST EFFECTIVE WAS THEIR MANIPULATION OF SOCIAL
    WAS THEIR MANIPULATION OF SOCIAL MEDIA.
    MEDIA. IT IS HARD TO MEASURE THEIR
    IT IS HARD TO MEASURE THEIR INFLUENCE.
    INFLUENCE. THEY ARE EVERYDAY PLAYING ON
    THEY ARE EVERYDAY PLAYING ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
    SOCIAL MEDIA. THERE IS A WEBB CALLED HAMILTON
    THERE IS A WEBB CALLED HAMILTON 68 THAT MEASURES SOME OF ON IT
    68 THAT MEASURES SOME OF ON IT TWITTER AND THEY'RE TRYING TO
    TWITTER AND THEY'RE TRYING TO DIVIDE AMERICANS ON RACE, ON
    DIVIDE AMERICANS ON RACE, ON GUNS, ALL SORTS OF ISSUES.
    GUNS, ALL SORTS OF ISSUES. AND DAN COATS, THE DIRECTOR OF
    AND DAN COATS, THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE, GAVE A
    NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE, GAVE A SPEECH THE OTHER DAY AND HE SAID
    SPEECH THE OTHER DAY AND HE SAID THIS IS HAPPENING.
    THIS IS HAPPENING. THEY'RE INTERFERING IN OUR
    THEY'RE INTERFERING IN OUR POLITICS.
    POLITICS. WHAT HE DIDN'T SAY IS THERE IS
    WHAT HE DIDN'T SAY IS THERE IS NOTHING THAT WE'RE DOING ABOUT
    NOTHING THAT WE'RE DOING ABOUT IT.
    IT. WE, THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, HAS NOT
    WE, THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, HAS NOT DETERRED THIS BEHAVIOR AT ALL.
    DETERRED THIS BEHAVIOR AT ALL. AND THE ATTEMPTED HACK OF CLAIRE
    AND THE ATTEMPTED HACK OF CLAIRE McCASKILL AS WELL.
    McCASKILL AS WELL. >> A HUGE STORY.
    >> A HUGE STORY. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FOOTAGE THAT
    WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FOOTAGE THAT LOOKS DIFFERENT OVER TIME.
    LOOKS DIFFERENT OVER TIME. WE'RE BONL 100 DAYS OUT FROM
    WE'RE BONL 100 DAYS OUT FROM THESE MID-TERMS.
    THESE MID-TERMS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
    THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >>> IT'S BEEN A BIG NEWS DAY.
    >>> IT'S BEEN A BIG NEWS DAY. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ARE LESS
    WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ARE LESS THAN TRUTHFUL WHEN YOU TALK TO
    THAN TRUTHFUL WHEN YOU TALK TO THE U.S. CONGRESS?
    THE U.S. CONGRESS? SOMEONE QUITE CLOSE TO THIS
    SOMEONE QUITE CLOSE TO THIS PRESIDENT MAY BE ABOUT TO FIND
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