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    SERIES WE'RE DOING TONIGHT BEGINS WITH TONY SCHWARTZ ON THE
    BEGINS WITH TONY SCHWARTZ ON THE STATE OF MIND OF TRUMP.
    STATE OF MIND OF TRUMP. >>> BUT I BEGIN WITH BREAKING
    >>> BUT I BEGIN WITH BREAKING NEWS.
    NEWS. THE CLAIMS BY MICHAEL COHEN THAT
    THE CLAIMS BY MICHAEL COHEN THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS IN ON A
    DONALD TRUMP WAS IN ON A POTENTIAL CONSPIRACY AT TRUMP
    POTENTIAL CONSPIRACY AT TRUMP TOWER ARE THE BIG NEWS RIGHT
    TOWER ARE THE BIG NEWS RIGHT NOW.
    NOW. THEY'RE BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY AT
    THEY'RE BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
    THE WHITE HOUSE. DONALD TRUMP IS FORMERLY DENYING
    DONALD TRUMP IS FORMERLY DENYING HE WAS IN ON THIS MEETING, OR
    HE WAS IN ON THIS MEETING, OR THAT HE APPROVED IT BEFORE IT
    THAT HE APPROVED IT BEFORE IT HAPPENED.
    HAPPENED. COHEN, THOUGH, REPORTEDLY
    COHEN, THOUGH, REPORTEDLY WILLING TO TELL THIS ENTIRE
    WILLING TO TELL THIS ENTIRE ALLEGATION DIRECTLY TO BOB
    ALLEGATION DIRECTLY TO BOB MUELLER.
    MUELLER. NOW, DONALD TRUMP SAYS, NO, HE
    NOW, DONALD TRUMP SAYS, NO, HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING,
    DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING, SOMETHING HE AND HIS SON HAVE
    SOMETHING HE AND HIS SON HAVE INSISTED OVER THE LAST YEAR.
    INSISTED OVER THE LAST YEAR. >> DID YOU KNOW AT THE TIME THAT
    >> DID YOU KNOW AT THE TIME THAT THEY HAD THE MEETING?
    THEY HAD THE MEETING? >> NO, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING
    >> NO, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE MEETING.
    ABOUT THE MEETING. IT MUST HAVE BEEN A VERY
    IT MUST HAVE BEEN A VERY UNIMPORTANT MEETING, I NEVER
    UNIMPORTANT MEETING, I NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THAT.
    EVEN HEARD OF THAT. >> DID YOU TELL YOUR FATHER
    >> DID YOU TELL YOUR FATHER ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?
    ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? >> NO.
    >> NO. IT WAS SUCH A NOTHING, THERE WAS
    IT WAS SUCH A NOTHING, THERE WAS NOTHING TO TELL.
    NOTHING TO TELL. >> THERE WAS NOTHING TO TELL.
    >> THERE WAS NOTHING TO TELL. DO YOU BELIEVE DON JR. AND
    DO YOU BELIEVE DON JR. AND DONALD TRUMP?
    DONALD TRUMP? OR DO YOU BELIEVE THESE REPORTS
    OR DO YOU BELIEVE THESE REPORTS THAT MICHAEL COHEN SAYS THERE
    THAT MICHAEL COHEN SAYS THERE WAS SOMETHING TO TELL, AND THEY
    WAS SOMETHING TO TELL, AND THEY WERE IN ON IT?
    WERE IN ON IT? HERE ARE THE OTHER INDICATIONS
    HERE ARE THE OTHER INDICATIONS THAT TRUMP HAD SOME KIND OF
    THAT TRUMP HAD SOME KIND OF HEADS UP, THREE HOURS AFTER DON
    HEADS UP, THREE HOURS AFTER DON JR. CONFIRMED THE TRUMP TOWER
    JR. CONFIRMED THE TRUMP TOWER MEETING IN AN E-MAIL, THEN
    MEETING IN AN E-MAIL, THEN CANDIDATE TRUMP PROMISED A PRESS
    CANDIDATE TRUMP PROMISED A PRESS CONFERENCE WITH, YES, NEW DIRT
    CONFERENCE WITH, YES, NEW DIRT ON CLINTON.
    ON CLINTON. >> I AM GOING TO GIVE A MAJOR
    >> I AM GOING TO GIVE A MAJOR SPEECH ON PROBABLY MONDAY OF
    SPEECH ON PROBABLY MONDAY OF NEXT WEEK.
    NEXT WEEK. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING
    AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE
    ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE WITH THE CLINTONS.
    TAKEN PLACE WITH THE CLINTONS. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IT
    I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IT VERY INFORMATIVE, AND VERY, VERY
    VERY INFORMATIVE, AND VERY, VERY INTERESTING.
    INTERESTING. >> DON JR. SAYS THE RUSSIANS
    >> DON JR. SAYS THE RUSSIANS DIDN'T GIVE HIM ANY ACTIONABLE
    DIDN'T GIVE HIM ANY ACTIONABLE DIRT AND THE PROMISED PRESS
    DIRT AND THE PROMISED PRESS CONFERENCE ON THE CLINTONS NEVER
    CONFERENCE ON THE CLINTONS NEVER OCCURRED.
    OCCURRED. THE RUSSIANS DID APPEAR TO SCORE
    THE RUSSIANS DID APPEAR TO SCORE A VICTORY WITH THIS ACCESS TO
    A VICTORY WITH THIS ACCESS TO THE CAMPAIGN AT THE HIGHEST
    THE CAMPAIGN AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS.
    LEVELS. OF COURSE, WE'RE ALSO LEARNING
    OF COURSE, WE'RE ALSO LEARNING THAT THE RUSSIAN LAWYER AT THE
    THAT THE RUSSIAN LAWYER AT THE METING WAS NOT ONLY CONNECTED TO
    METING WAS NOT ONLY CONNECTED TO THE KREMLIN, SHE WAS A
    THE KREMLIN, SHE WAS A HIGH-LEVEL TRUSTED ADVISER,
    HIGH-LEVEL TRUSTED ADVISER, E-MAILS DISCLOSED SHOWED SHE
    E-MAILS DISCLOSED SHOWED SHE WORKED AS A GHOST WRITER OR
    WORKED AS A GHOST WRITER OR OTHER RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT
    OTHER RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT LAWYERS, GOT HELP ON HER OWN
    LAWYERS, GOT HELP ON HER OWN CASES AND ALL OF THAT HELPS ADD
    CASES AND ALL OF THAT HELPS ADD CONTEXT TO WHAT WAS GOING ON AND
    CONTEXT TO WHAT WAS GOING ON AND HOW HIGH LEVEL OF A CONSPIRACY
    HOW HIGH LEVEL OF A CONSPIRACY THIS MAY HAVE ALLEGEDLY BEEN.
    THIS MAY HAVE ALLEGEDLY BEEN. ALL OF THIS SWIRLING TODAY WITH
    ALL OF THIS SWIRLING TODAY WITH DON JR. AND BOB MUELLER IN THE
    DON JR. AND BOB MUELLER IN THE MIX.
    MIX. LOOK AT THIS QUITE AMAZING
    LOOK AT THIS QUITE AMAZING PHOTOGRAPH THAT HAS JUST GONE
    PHOTOGRAPH THAT HAS JUST GONE PUBLIC.
    PUBLIC. THIS IS A SCENE YOU'RE LOOKING
    THIS IS A SCENE YOU'RE LOOKING AT TODAY, YOU CAN SEE BOB
    AT TODAY, YOU CAN SEE BOB MUELLER THE SPECIAL COUNSEL
    MUELLER THE SPECIAL COUNSEL SITTING A FEW FEET AWAY FROM
    SITTING A FEW FEET AWAY FROM DONALD TRUMP JR., OF COURSE AT
    DONALD TRUMP JR., OF COURSE AT THE CENTER OF THIS PART OF THE
    THE CENTER OF THIS PART OF THE INVESTIGATION, WHO'S THERE ON
    INVESTIGATION, WHO'S THERE ON THE PHONE PLANK FLANKED BY
    THE PHONE PLANK FLANKED BY SECURITY.
    SECURITY. THAT WAS THE SCENE JUST THIS
    THAT WAS THE SCENE JUST THIS MORNING AS THEY PREPARED TO
    MORNING AS THEY PREPARED TO BOARD THEIR PLANES.
    BOARD THEIR PLANES. I'M JOINED NOW BY FORMER FEDERAL
    I'M JOINED NOW BY FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR JOYCE VANCE, JENNIFER
    PROSECUTOR JOYCE VANCE, JENNIFER REUBEN, AND DAVID CORN HAS BEEN
    REUBEN, AND DAVID CORN HAS BEEN COVERING THIS STORY SINCE DAY
    COVERING THIS STORY SINCE DAY ONE.
    ONE. DAVID, AS WE LOOK AT THAT PHOTO,
    DAVID, AS WE LOOK AT THAT PHOTO, AND WE'LL PUT IT BACK UP ON THE
    AND WE'LL PUT IT BACK UP ON THE SCREEN, WALK US THROUGH WHAT YOU
    SCREEN, WALK US THROUGH WHAT YOU SEE BETWEEN THESE MEN HERE
    SEE BETWEEN THESE MEN HERE SEPARATED BY JUST A FEW FEET,
    SEPARATED BY JUST A FEW FEET, THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE
    THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE TELLS US BOB MUELLER WAS NOT
    TELLS US BOB MUELLER WAS NOT AWARE THAT THAT WAS DONALD TRUMP
    AWARE THAT THAT WAS DONALD TRUMP JR., AND THAT THEY ARE NOT
    JR., AND THAT THEY ARE NOT CONFIRMING THAT ASPECT OF IT.
    CONFIRMING THAT ASPECT OF IT. BUT WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THIS
    BUT WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THIS PHOTO?
    PHOTO? >> WHAT I SEE IS THE GUY IN
    >> WHAT I SEE IS THE GUY IN CHARGE OF AN INVESTIGATION AND A
    CHARGE OF AN INVESTIGATION AND A GUY WHO IS THE SUBJECT OF AN
    GUY WHO IS THE SUBJECT OF AN INVESTIGATION THAT JUST GOT MORE
    INVESTIGATION THAT JUST GOT MORE PROFOUND.
    PROFOUND. WE HAVE TO PREFACE EVERYTHING,
    WE HAVE TO PREFACE EVERYTHING, ARI, WITH IF THE ACCOUNT FROM
    ARI, WITH IF THE ACCOUNT FROM MICHAEL COHEN IS TRUE, BUT, BUT,
    MICHAEL COHEN IS TRUE, BUT, BUT, BUT.
    BUT. SO IF THE ACCOUNT IS TRUE, IT IS
    SO IF THE ACCOUNT IS TRUE, IT IS A TREMENDOUS CHANGE IN THE
    A TREMENDOUS CHANGE IN THE LANDSCAPE.
    LANDSCAPE. WHAT IT DOES IS SHOW US TWO
    WHAT IT DOES IS SHOW US TWO THINGS.
    THINGS. ONE, THAT DONALD TRUMP, FROM THE
    ONE, THAT DONALD TRUMP, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WAS IN ON AN
    VERY BEGINNING, WAS IN ON AN ATTEMPT AT COLLUSION, AN ATTEMPT
    ATTEMPT AT COLLUSION, AN ATTEMPT TO CONSPIRE WITH A PLOT THAT WAS
    TO CONSPIRE WITH A PLOT THAT WAS DESCRIBED TO DONALD TRUMP JR. AS
    DESCRIBED TO DONALD TRUMP JR. AS A SECRET OPERATION BY THE
    A SECRET OPERATION BY THE KREMLIN TO HELP TRUMP.
    KREMLIN TO HELP TRUMP. SO IF TRUMP KNOWS ABOUT THAT
    SO IF TRUMP KNOWS ABOUT THAT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AND IS
    FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AND IS IN ON IT, I THINK THAT HAS A LOT
    IN ON IT, I THINK THAT HAS A LOT OF LEGAL, BUT EVEN MORE SO,
    OF LEGAL, BUT EVEN MORE SO, POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS.
    POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS. PLUS IF HE'S TOLD ABOUT THIS,
    PLUS IF HE'S TOLD ABOUT THIS, AND EVEN IF NOTHING CAME OUT OF
    AND EVEN IF NOTHING CAME OUT OF THE MEETING, REMEMBER THROUGHOUT
    THE MEETING, REMEMBER THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN AND UP TO NOW
    THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN AND UP TO NOW HE KEEPS DENYING OR DISMISSING
    HE KEEPS DENYING OR DISMISSING THE RUSSIAN OPERATION.
    THE RUSSIAN OPERATION. COULD HAVE BEEN A 400-POUND GUY
    COULD HAVE BEEN A 400-POUND GUY IN A BASEMENT.
    IN A BASEMENT. THE RUSSIANS DIDN'T DO THIS.
    THE RUSSIANS DIDN'T DO THIS. WE DON'T KNOW THE RUSSIANS DID
    WE DON'T KNOW THE RUSSIANS DID THIS.
    THIS. THEY KEPT DOING THAT.
    THEY KEPT DOING THAT. IF HE WAS TOLD IN JUNE 2016 THAT
    IF HE WAS TOLD IN JUNE 2016 THAT RUSSIA WANTED TO WORK WITH HIM
    RUSSIA WANTED TO WORK WITH HIM ON A SECRET PLAN TO HELP HIM AND
    ON A SECRET PLAN TO HELP HIM AND HURT HILLARY CLINTON, AND THEN
    HURT HILLARY CLINTON, AND THEN WENT THROUGH ALL THOSE DENIALS,
    WENT THROUGH ALL THOSE DENIALS, WELL, IT SHOWS HE WAS COVERING
    WELL, IT SHOWS HE WAS COVERING UP FOR PUTIN AND FOR PUTIN'S
    UP FOR PUTIN AND FOR PUTIN'S OPERATION.
    OPERATION. SO COLLUSION AND COVERUP, EACH
    SO COLLUSION AND COVERUP, EACH SIDE OF THIS EQUATION JUST GOT
    SIDE OF THIS EQUATION JUST GOT DEEPER.
    DEEPER. >> YOU SAY COVERING UP FOR
    >> YOU SAY COVERING UP FOR PUTIN.
    PUTIN. JENNIFER REUBEN, ALL OF THIS
    JENNIFER REUBEN, ALL OF THIS INVESTIGATIVE BREAKTHROUGH STUFF
    INVESTIGATIVE BREAKTHROUGH STUFF IS COMING ON THE HEELS OF WHAT
    IS COMING ON THE HEELS OF WHAT REMAINS A HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL
    REMAINS A HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL SUMMIT BETWEEN THESE TWO MEN.
    SUMMIT BETWEEN THESE TWO MEN. HERE WAS PUTIN INVITING TRUMP TO
    HERE WAS PUTIN INVITING TRUMP TO THE MOSCOW FOR A MEETING TODAY.
    THE MOSCOW FOR A MEETING TODAY. >> YEAH.
    >> YEAH. >> WE ARE READY TO INVITE
    >> WE ARE READY TO INVITE PRESIDENT TRUMP TO MOSCOW.
    PRESIDENT TRUMP TO MOSCOW. BE MY GUEST.
    BE MY GUEST. HE HAS SUCH AN INVITATION, AND I
    HE HAS SUCH AN INVITATION, AND I TOLD HIM THAT.
    TOLD HIM THAT. I AM READY TO GO TO WASHINGTON
    I AM READY TO GO TO WASHINGTON AS WELL.
    AS WELL. I REPEAT, ONCE AGAIN, IF THE
    I REPEAT, ONCE AGAIN, IF THE RIGHT CONDITIONS FOR WORK ARE
    RIGHT CONDITIONS FOR WORK ARE CREATED.
    CREATED. >> JENNIFER?
    >> JENNIFER? >> THE RIGHT CONDITIONS FOR
    >> THE RIGHT CONDITIONS FOR WORK.
    WORK. ISN'T THAT AN OMINOUS PHRASE.
    ISN'T THAT AN OMINOUS PHRASE. WHAT DOES HE WANT UP FRONT?
    WHAT DOES HE WANT UP FRONT? IT MAKES EVERYONE, DEMOCRATS,
    IT MAKES EVERYONE, DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, MEMBERS OF HIS OWN
    REPUBLICANS, MEMBERS OF HIS OWN ADMINISTRATION, VERY NERVOUS
    ADMINISTRATION, VERY NERVOUS WHAT HE IS DOING IN THESE
    WHAT HE IS DOING IN THESE TWO-HOUR, ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS
    TWO-HOUR, ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH PUTIN.
    WITH PUTIN. SOMETHING STRIKES ME, AS DAVID
    SOMETHING STRIKES ME, AS DAVID WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS MEETING,
    WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS MEETING, EVEN THE FACT OF THE MEETING,
    EVEN THE FACT OF THE MEETING, THE FACT THAT HIS PEOPLE TOOK A
    THE FACT THAT HIS PEOPLE TOOK A MEETING WITH RUSSIAN OPERATIVES
    MEETING WITH RUSSIAN OPERATIVES IS ITSELF THEN LEVERAGE AND A
    IS ITSELF THEN LEVERAGE AND A REASON FOR BLACKMAIL BECAUSE IF
    REASON FOR BLACKMAIL BECAUSE IF THAT COMES OUT DURING THE
    THAT COMES OUT DURING THE CAMPAIGN, OH, THEY WERE
    CAMPAIGN, OH, THEY WERE CONSPIRING WITH THE RUSSIANS,
    CONSPIRING WITH THE RUSSIANS, THAT IN ITSELF IS A WAY OF
    THAT IN ITSELF IS A WAY OF APPLYING PRESSURE TO THE
    APPLYING PRESSURE TO THE PRESIDENT.
    PRESIDENT. SO THE PRESIDENT FROM DAY ONE
    SO THE PRESIDENT FROM DAY ONE HAS BEEN VERY UPSET THAT SOMEHOW
    HAS BEEN VERY UPSET THAT SOMEHOW HIS ENTIRE PRESIDENCY WOULD BE
    HIS ENTIRE PRESIDENCY WOULD BE DISCREDITED BY THE NOTION THAT
    DISCREDITED BY THE NOTION THAT THE RUSSIANS HAD HELPED HIM.
    THE RUSSIANS HAD HELPED HIM. GUESS WHAT?
    GUESS WHAT? THE RUSSIANS DID HELP HIM.
    THE RUSSIANS DID HELP HIM. IF HE KNEW ABOUT THAT, THAT'S
    IF HE KNEW ABOUT THAT, THAT'S REASON TO FIRE JAMES COMEY,
    REASON TO FIRE JAMES COMEY, REASON FOR HIM TO CRAFT A PHONY
    REASON FOR HIM TO CRAFT A PHONY EXPLANATION FOR THAT MEETING IN
    EXPLANATION FOR THAT MEETING IN TRUMP TOWER.
    TRUMP TOWER. IT'S REASON FOR A LOT OF
    IT'S REASON FOR A LOT OF BEHAVIOR THAT SEEMED ODD AT THE
    BEHAVIOR THAT SEEMED ODD AT THE TIME BUT IN FACT NOW CAN JUST BE
    TIME BUT IN FACT NOW CAN JUST BE SEEN AS A DIRECT COVERUP.
    SEEN AS A DIRECT COVERUP. >> JOYCE, THIS GOES TO THE OTHER
    >> JOYCE, THIS GOES TO THE OTHER PART, WE TRY TO BE VERY FAIR AND
    PART, WE TRY TO BE VERY FAIR AND PRECISE HERE, WE'VE HAD JAY
    PRECISE HERE, WE'VE HAD JAY GOLDBERG, A TRUMP LAWYER ON,
    GOLDBERG, A TRUMP LAWYER ON, OTHER TRUMP SURROGATES, WE HAD
    OTHER TRUMP SURROGATES, WE HAD MADISON JESSE ON TO SPEAK ON
    MADISON JESSE ON TO SPEAK ON THAT NEWS, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO
    THAT NEWS, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO REFER TO THE TRUMP TOWER SET OF
    REFER TO THE TRUMP TOWER SET OF STATEMENTS FROM THE PRESIDENT IS
    STATEMENTS FROM THE PRESIDENT IS THAT HE HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY
    THAT HE HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY LYING AND CAUGHT LYING ABOUT IT.
    LYING AND CAUGHT LYING ABOUT IT. THAT'S A JOURNALISTIC
    THAT'S A JOURNALISTIC ESTABLISHED FACT AT THIS POINT.
    ESTABLISHED FACT AT THIS POINT. SO WHAT DO YOU AS A PROSECUTOR
    SO WHAT DO YOU AS A PROSECUTOR THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT?
    THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT? LET ME LOOK AT THIS SOUND BYTE
    LET ME LOOK AT THIS SOUND BYTE HERE FROM "MEET THE PRESS" WHEN
    HERE FROM "MEET THE PRESS" WHEN THEY INITIALLY LIED AND DENIED
    THEY INITIALLY LIED AND DENIED DICTATING THIS AIR FORCE ONE
    DICTATING THIS AIR FORCE ONE STATEMENT.
    STATEMENT. TAKE A LOOK.
    TAKE A LOOK. >> THE PRESIDENT WAS NOT
    >> THE PRESIDENT WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE DRAFTING OF THE
    INVOLVED IN THE DRAFTING OF THE STATEMENT AND DID NOT ISSUE THE
    STATEMENT AND DID NOT ISSUE THE STATEMENT.
    STATEMENT. IT CAME FROM DONALD TRUMP JR.
    IT CAME FROM DONALD TRUMP JR. >> HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T DICTATE.
    >> HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T DICTATE. BUT, YOU KNOW, HE -- LIKE I
    BUT, YOU KNOW, HE -- LIKE I SAID, HE WEIGHED IN, OFFERED
    SAID, HE WEIGHED IN, OFFERED SUGGESTION LIKE ANY FATHER WOULD
    SUGGESTION LIKE ANY FATHER WOULD DO.
    DO. >> AS I SAY, THAT'S NOT TRUE AND
    >> AS I SAY, THAT'S NOT TRUE AND IT COMES FROM THE LIES AT THE
    IT COMES FROM THE LIES AT THE TOP FROM DONALD TRUMP, JOYCE.
    TOP FROM DONALD TRUMP, JOYCE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PART OF
    WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PART OF IT, WITHOUT PRESUPPOSING
    IT, WITHOUT PRESUPPOSING ANYONE'S GUILT, BUT JUST KNOWING
    ANYONE'S GUILT, BUT JUST KNOWING THEY WERE LYING ABOUT THAT, AND
    THEY WERE LYING ABOUT THAT, AND THEN YOU ADD MICHAEL COHEN HERE
    THEN YOU ADD MICHAEL COHEN HERE POTENTIALLY ALLEGING TO MUELLER
    POTENTIALLY ALLEGING TO MUELLER THAT DONALD TRUMP HAD ALL THIS
    THAT DONALD TRUMP HAD ALL THIS ADVANCE NOTICE, WHAT DOES THAT
    ADVANCE NOTICE, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE INVESTIGATION IN YOUR
    DO TO THE INVESTIGATION IN YOUR VIEW AS A PROSECUTOR?
    VIEW AS A PROSECUTOR? >> YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT'S
    >> YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT'S COVERUP HERE, THE STATEMENT THAT
    COVERUP HERE, THE STATEMENT THAT HE DICTATED ON AIR FORCE ONE HAS
    HE DICTATED ON AIR FORCE ONE HAS NEVER MADE ANY SENSE.
    NEVER MADE ANY SENSE. ON THE ONE HAND IF THE MEETING
    ON THE ONE HAND IF THE MEETING WAS UNIMPORTANT, AND AS SOMEONE
    WAS UNIMPORTANT, AND AS SOMEONE SAID AT THE TIME A NOTHING
    SAID AT THE TIME A NOTHING BURGER, THEN WHY DOES THE
    BURGER, THEN WHY DOES THE PRESIDENT GO TO THE TROUBLE OF
    PRESIDENT GO TO THE TROUBLE OF LYING ABOUT IT?
    LYING ABOUT IT? THAT STATEMENT THAT THE
    THAT STATEMENT THAT THE PRESIDENT DRAFTED FOR DON JR.
    PRESIDENT DRAFTED FOR DON JR. HAS ONLY EVER MADE SENSE IF THIS
    HAS ONLY EVER MADE SENSE IF THIS MEETING WAS CRITICALLY
    MEETING WAS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, AND EQUALLY IMPORTANT
    IMPORTANT, AND EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO COVER UP.
    TO COVER UP. SO NOW WHAT WE SEE, IF COHEN'S
    SO NOW WHAT WE SEE, IF COHEN'S STATEMENT IS TRUE, AND DAVID
    STATEMENT IS TRUE, AND DAVID CORN IS CORRECT, WE NEED TO
    CORN IS CORRECT, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER IT CAN BE
    UNDERSTAND WHETHER IT CAN BE AUTHENTICATED, AND ALSO
    AUTHENTICATED, AND ALSO PRECISELY WHAT COHEN WILL HAVE
    PRECISELY WHAT COHEN WILL HAVE TO SAY WHEN HE MAKES IT.
    TO SAY WHEN HE MAKES IT. BUT IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE TRUE,
    BUT IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE TRUE, A LOT OF THESE PIECES, PUZZLE
    A LOT OF THESE PIECES, PUZZLE PIECES THAT ARE SCATTERED ACROSS
    PIECES THAT ARE SCATTERED ACROSS THE TABLE START TO CLICK INTO
    THE TABLE START TO CLICK INTO PLACE.
    PLACE. >> WE'LL PUT UP, WHILE YOU'RE
    >> WE'LL PUT UP, WHILE YOU'RE TALKING, WE'RE GOING TO PUT UP
    TALKING, WE'RE GOING TO PUT UP WHEN THE PRESIDENT'S LAWYERS
    WHEN THE PRESIDENT'S LAWYERS ADMITTED THEY LIED ABOUT ALL
    ADMITTED THEY LIED ABOUT ALL THIS.
    THIS. GO AHEAD.
    GO AHEAD. >> BOTH ON THE COLLUSION PIECE,
    >> BOTH ON THE COLLUSION PIECE, COLLUSION IS A LOT MORE LIKELY,
    COLLUSION IS A LOT MORE LIKELY, IF THE PRESIDENT KNEW ABOUT THIS
    IF THE PRESIDENT KNEW ABOUT THIS MEETING IN ADVANCE, AND
    MEETING IN ADVANCE, AND AUTHORIZED IT, AND BY THE SAME
    AUTHORIZED IT, AND BY THE SAME TOKEN THE OBSTRUCTION PART OF
    TOKEN THE OBSTRUCTION PART OF THE EQUATION REALLY COMES INTO
    THE EQUATION REALLY COMES INTO FOCUS HERE.
    FOCUS HERE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THIS
    YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THIS REALLY STRANGE STATEMENT IN JULY
    REALLY STRANGE STATEMENT IN JULY WHERE THE PRESIDENT GOES OUT,
    WHERE THE PRESIDENT GOES OUT, HE'S CAMPAIGNING, AND HE SAYS,
    HE'S CAMPAIGNING, AND HE SAYS, RUSSIA, IF YOU'RE LISTENING,
    RUSSIA, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP
    HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP ME OUT, FIND HILLARY'S E-MAILS.
    ME OUT, FIND HILLARY'S E-MAILS. THAT'S ALWAYS SEEMED A LITTLE
    THAT'S ALWAYS SEEMED A LITTLE BIT AUK YARDWKWARD AND OUT OF PL
    BIT AUK YARDWKWARD AND OUT OF PL PERHAPS WE WILL ULTIMATELY
    PERHAPS WE WILL ULTIMATELY UNDERSTAND THAT AS TRUMP TAKING
    UNDERSTAND THAT AS TRUMP TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WHATEVER WAS
    ADVANTAGE OF WHATEVER WAS OFFERED TO HIM DURING THIS JUNE
    OFFERED TO HIM DURING THIS JUNE TRUMP TOWER'S MEETING.
    TRUMP TOWER'S MEETING. PERHAPS EVERYTHING THEY'VE SAID
    PERHAPS EVERYTHING THEY'VE SAID TO US ABOUT THIS MEETING SO FAR
    TO US ABOUT THIS MEETING SO FAR HAS BEEN A LIE, AND IT REALLY
    HAS BEEN A LIE, AND IT REALLY WAS A PROFFER OF WHATEVER RUSSIA
    WAS A PROFFER OF WHATEVER RUSSIA CAN DO TO HELP YOU WIN.
    CAN DO TO HELP YOU WIN. >> THAT STATEMENT YOU CITE WAS
    >> THAT STATEMENT YOU CITE WAS TWO YEARS AGO TODAY.
    TWO YEARS AGO TODAY. HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, DAVID CORN.
    HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, DAVID CORN. >> YEAH.
    >> YEAH. AND IT'S A STATEMENT THAT WE
    AND IT'S A STATEMENT THAT WE KNOW MORE ABOUT NOW BECAUSE THE
    KNOW MORE ABOUT NOW BECAUSE THE INDICTMENT THAT ROBERT MUELLER
    INDICTMENT THAT ROBERT MUELLER PUT OUT RECENTLY OF 12 RUSSIAN
    PUT OUT RECENTLY OF 12 RUSSIAN MILITARY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS
    MILITARY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN HACKING THE
    WHO WERE INVOLVED IN HACKING THE DEMOCRATS TO HELP TRUMP AND HURT
    DEMOCRATS TO HELP TRUMP AND HURT HILLARY CLINTON IN THAT
    HILLARY CLINTON IN THAT INDICTMENT MUELLER DESCRIBES
    INDICTMENT MUELLER DESCRIBES THIS DAY AS THE DAY LATE AT
    THIS DAY AS THE DAY LATE AT NIGHT.
    NIGHT. HE PUTS THAT INTO THE INDICTMENT
    HE PUTS THAT INTO THE INDICTMENT FOR A REASON, LATE AT NIGHT THEY
    FOR A REASON, LATE AT NIGHT THEY STARTED TARGETING OR TRYING TO
    STARTED TARGETING OR TRYING TO PENETRATE HILLARY CLINTON'S OWN
    PENETRATE HILLARY CLINTON'S OWN PERSONAL E-MAILS, AND E-MAILS OF
    PERSONAL E-MAILS, AND E-MAILS OF PEOPLE ON THE CAMPAIGN AS IF
    PEOPLE ON THE CAMPAIGN AS IF THEY WERE TAKING DONALD TRUMP'S
    THEY WERE TAKING DONALD TRUMP'S INSTRUCTIONS AND GUIDANCE.
    INSTRUCTIONS AND GUIDANCE. SO HERE, YOU KNOW, TO GO BACK TO
    SO HERE, YOU KNOW, TO GO BACK TO JOYCE'S POINT, WE UNDERSTAND
    JOYCE'S POINT, WE UNDERSTAND MORE NOW.
    MORE NOW. IF DONALD TRUMP WAS TOLD ABOUT
    IF DONALD TRUMP WAS TOLD ABOUT THIS MEETING, IT MEANS HE WAS
    THIS MEETING, IT MEANS HE WAS TOLD THAT RUSSIA WANTED TO HELP
    TOLD THAT RUSSIA WANTED TO HELP HIM SECRETLY.
    HIM SECRETLY. AND HERE HE IS NOW PUBLICLY
    AND HERE HE IS NOW PUBLICLY COMMUNICATING WITH RUSSIA SAY,
    COMMUNICATING WITH RUSSIA SAY, HEY, THIS IS HOW I WANT YOU TO
    HEY, THIS IS HOW I WANT YOU TO HELP.
    HELP. I MEAN, COLLUSION, CONSPIRACY,
    I MEAN, COLLUSION, CONSPIRACY, OBSTRUCTION, COVERUP, ALL THESE
    OBSTRUCTION, COVERUP, ALL THESE NARRATIVES WHICH INTERTWINE ARE
    NARRATIVES WHICH INTERTWINE ARE BOLSTERED BY MICHAEL COHEN'S
    BOLSTERED BY MICHAEL COHEN'S ACCOUNT IF TRUE.
    ACCOUNT IF TRUE. >> AND SO JENNIFER WHEN DAVID
    >> AND SO JENNIFER WHEN DAVID LAYS IT OUT LIKE THAT, IT'S
    LAYS IT OUT LIKE THAT, IT'S CHILLING BECAUSE THE MORE BENIGN
    CHILLING BECAUSE THE MORE BENIGN EARLIER INTERPRETATIONS THAT
    EARLIER INTERPRETATIONS THAT WERE AVAILABLE WERE LOWER-LEVEL
    WERE AVAILABLE WERE LOWER-LEVEL PEOPLE DID THIS, OR EVERYONE'S
    PEOPLE DID THIS, OR EVERYONE'S AN IDIOT, AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY
    AN IDIOT, AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND ALL THE MEETINGS THEY
    UNDERSTAND ALL THE MEETINGS THEY WERE GOING TO.
    WERE GOING TO. BY THE WAY, IDIOT DEFENSES CAN
    BY THE WAY, IDIOT DEFENSES CAN WORK IN THE LAW.
    WORK IN THE LAW. IT'S NOT A CRIME TO BE STUPID
    IT'S NOT A CRIME TO BE STUPID AND GO TO THE WRONG MEETING.
    AND GO TO THE WRONG MEETING. WHAT DAVID LAYS OUT WHEN YOU PUT
    WHAT DAVID LAYS OUT WHEN YOU PUT THESE PIECES TOGETHER, ACCORDING
    THESE PIECES TOGETHER, ACCORDING TO COHEN'S THEORY OF THE CASE.
    TO COHEN'S THEORY OF THE CASE. WE ALWAYS CAN REPORT THERE WILL
    WE ALWAYS CAN REPORT THERE WILL BE DENIALS, THERE WILL BE OTHER
    BE DENIALS, THERE WILL BE OTHER PERSPECTIVES.
    PERSPECTIVES. BUT ACCORDING TO COHEN'S THEORY
    BUT ACCORDING TO COHEN'S THEORY OF THE CASE, YOU'RE ADDING
    OF THE CASE, YOU'RE ADDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE THAT
    TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE THAT SUGGESTS, NO, THEY WEREN'T
    SUGGESTS, NO, THEY WEREN'T IDIOTS.
    IDIOTS. AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL THEY HAD A
    AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL THEY HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT THEY
    LOT OF INFORMATION THAT THEY THEN ACTED ON.
    THEN ACTED ON. >> AND ALL THE IDIOT BEHAVIOR
    >> AND ALL THE IDIOT BEHAVIOR WAS IN ONE DIRECTION.
    WAS IN ONE DIRECTION. NO ONE EVER THOUGHT, OH, I MET
    NO ONE EVER THOUGHT, OH, I MET WITH THE RUSSIANS WHEN THEY
    WITH THE RUSSIANS WHEN THEY DIDN'T.
    DIDN'T. THEY KEPT SAYING THEY NEVER MET
    THEY KEPT SAYING THEY NEVER MET WITH THE RUSSIANS WHEN THEY DID.
    WITH THE RUSSIANS WHEN THEY DID. EVERY PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT
    EVERY PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT WE'VE SEEN, THE PUBLIC
    WE'VE SEEN, THE PUBLIC STATEMENTS, THE PRIVATE
    STATEMENTS, THE PRIVATE STATEMENTS, THE FACT OF THE
    STATEMENTS, THE FACT OF THE MEETING, THE ATTEMPT TO COVER UP
    MEETING, THE ATTEMPT TO COVER UP THE MEETING, IT ALL MAKES SENSE
    THE MEETING, IT ALL MAKES SENSE ONLY IF THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO
    ONLY IF THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO SOLICIT HELP FROM THE RUSSIANS.
    SOLICIT HELP FROM THE RUSSIANS. AND IF YOU RECALL WAY BACK WHEN
    AND IF YOU RECALL WAY BACK WHEN THE TRUMP PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS
    THE TRUMP PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS SAID WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT TAKING
    SAID WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT TAKING A MEETING LIKE THIS THIS?
    A MEETING LIKE THIS THIS? THIN WOULD TAKE INFORMATION
    THIN WOULD TAKE INFORMATION THEY'RE OFFERED.
    THEY'RE OFFERED. THAT'S HOW CAMPAIGNS RUN.
    THAT'S HOW CAMPAIGNS RUN. THAT WAS A VERY TELLING
    THAT WAS A VERY TELLING STATEMENT.
    STATEMENT. I THINK IT SUGGESTS TO US THAT
    I THINK IT SUGGESTS TO US THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY THOUGHT.
    THAT'S WHAT THEY THOUGHT. THEY THOUGHT, HEY, THE RUSSIANS
    THEY THOUGHT, HEY, THE RUSSIANS ARE GOING TO HELP US, THAT'S
    ARE GOING TO HELP US, THAT'S SWELL.
    SWELL. AND IT'S ONLY BEEN AS TIME GOES
    AND IT'S ONLY BEEN AS TIME GOES ON THAT THEY REALIZE HOW
    ON THAT THEY REALIZE HOW POLITICALLY AND LEGALLY PERILOUS
    POLITICALLY AND LEGALLY PERILOUS THAT WAS.
    THAT WAS. SO HENCE THE COVERUP.
    SO HENCE THE COVERUP. >> RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT
    >> RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HIJACK ELECTIONS
    SUPPOSED TO HIJACK ELECTIONS WITH FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS.
    WITH FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS. >> YEAH, WHO KNEW?
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