Congressman Joe Crowley Warns Against GOP Tax Bill | Morning Joe | MSNBC

Congressman Joe Crowley Warns Against GOP Tax Bill | Morning Joe | MSNBC
    >> AND I'M STILL AROUND TOO.
    JOINING US NOW, CHAIRMAN OF THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS AND MEMBER OF
    THE HOUSE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE, JOE CROWLEY OF NEW
    YORK. IT'S VERY FUNNY BUT BEHIND EVERY
    "SNL" SATIRE, WHERE ARE THE NEW LEADERS?
    >> THERE ARE MANY WITHIN OUR PARTY.
    >> WHO? NAME THREE.
    >> NAME THREE. HOW ABOUT JOE CROWLEY FOR ONE --
    >> OKAY. I THINK SHERRY BUSTOS FROM
    ILLINOIS IS FANTASTIC YOUNG LEADER.
    I THINK HAKIM JEFFRIES IS OUTSTANDING AND YOU CAN CAN LOOK
    AT CASTRO FROM TEXAS, A MYRIAD OF YOUNG FOLKS THAT ARE THERE.
    JOE KENNEDY FROM MASSACHUSETTS, WHO I JUST LOVE THE GUY.
    I THINK HE'S FANTASTIC. >> SETH?
    >> HE'S A REAL DEAL AND SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS
    THERE WAITING IN THE WINGS -- REALLY WE'RE OUT THERE DOING
    THINGS AND SUPPORTING CANDIDATES AND TRAVELING WHAT WE DO TO
    ELECT A DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY. >> CONGRESSMAN, THIS TAX FIGHT
    WILL BE THE BIGGEST FIGHT ON LEGISLATIVE FRONT GOING FORWARD,
    A LOT OF REPUBLICANS THINK THIS IS ALL OR NOTHING FOR THEM.
    RIGHT NOW THE POLLING HAS THE GOP TAX PROPOSALS ARE UNDER
    WATER, WAY MORE UNPOPULAR THAN THEY ARE POPULAR.
    WILL DEMOCRATS ALMOST CAN'T SCREW THIS UP IT WOULD SEEM IF
    YOU START OUT WITH THE NUMBERS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT
    HERE, LOOKING AT THEM ON THE SCREEN HERE, 31% FAVOR, 41%
    OPPOSE. SHOULD THIS NOT BE A
    RELATIVELY -- NOT EASY BUT RELATIVELY EASY TO BEAT THIS TAX
    PROPOSAL? >> DEMOCRATS TO BEAT THIS
    TAX PROPOSAL? >> I THINK THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS
    IN THE HOUSE, THERE'S NO QUESTION.
    THEY PASSED THE BUDGET RESOLUTION THAT INCLUDED THE
    $1.5 TRILLION HOLE IN OUR DEBT TO GET THIS BILL PASSED.
    YOU KNOW, IF THEY CAN HOLD ALL THEIR CALIFORNIA VOTES TO VOTE
    AGAINST THE INTERESTS OF THEIR OWN CONSTITUENTS, WHICH THEY DID
    ALREADY IN THE BUDGET RESOLUTION, WE HAVE NINE
    REPUBLICANS IN NEW YORK STATE, SEVEN OF WHOM VOTED AGAINST THAT
    RESOLUTION, FIVE HAVE COME OUT AGAINST THIS BILL.
    IF ALL THOSE FOLKS COME OUT AGAINST THIS BILL, THIS BILL IS
    DEAD. IT IS ACTUALLY AGAINST THE
    INTERESTS OFSTS OF THEIR CONSTI. THEIR CONSTITUENTS THEY BELIEVE
    DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THIS BUT MORE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S
    ABOUT THAN MORE THAT ARE AGAINST IT.
    >> CONGRESSMAN, DEMOCRATS ARE ON THE RISE IN THE SUBURBS.
    IF YOU'RE A SENATOR IN A STATE PRESIDENT TRUMP WON OR A HOUSE
    DEMOCRAT IN A DISTRICT PRESIDENT TRUMP WON, DO YOU FEEL ANY
    PRESSURE TO MAYBE COME ALONG AND VOTE FOR THIS TAX PROPOSAL?
    >> I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU'RE GETTING
    RID OF THAT STATE AND LOCAL TAX DEDUCTION, THAT THAT REALLY HITS
    STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA, HITS STATES LIKE NEW YORK, HITS
    STATES LIKE ILLINOIS, HITS STATES LIKE PENNSYLVANIA, JUST
    TO NAME A FEW. NEW JERSEY IS ANOTHER.
    AND MUCH OF, I THINK, THE GROWTH OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WITHIN
    THOSE STATES HAS BEEN IN THE SUBURBAN AREAS.
    I THINK THAT'S A TOUGH VOTE TO EXPLAIN BACK HOME, ESPECIALLY
    WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE PETER KING IN NEW YORK BEING VERY
    OUTSPOKEN AGAINST IT. YOU HAVE OTHERS IN NEW JERSEY
    WHO HAVE COME OUT AGAINST THE BILL.
    YOU HAVE DARRELL ISSA IN CALIFORNIA WHO'S COME OUT.
    THAT WALL IS BREAKING. IF THAT WALL IS DESTROYED, I
    THINK THIS BILL GOES DOWN. IT REALLY COMES BACK TO DO YOU
    COME OUT BETTER IN THIS TAX BILL OR WORSE?
    I THINK FOR ABOUT 28% OF AMERICANS, THEY HAVE GOING TO
    SEE AN INCREASE IN THEIR TAXES. THAT'S MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA.
    AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS TO HELP GIVE A MAJOR TAX
    BREAK TO THE WEALTHIEST IN THIS COUNTRY AND SPECIAL INTEREST
    CORPORATIONS. IT JUST DOESN'T JIVE WITH THE
    AVERAGE AMERICAN THAT THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE ABOUT DOING
    RIGHT NOW. >> YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT
    THE OUTLINES OF THIS BILL AS THEY HAVE AND IN PRINT
    NEWSPAPERS AND ONLINE AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND FROM PEOPLE LIKE
    YOU APPEARING ON TV SHOWS, YOU LOOK AT WHAT IT'S DOING TO
    MEDICAL DEDUCTIONS AND STUDENT LOANS.
    THAT'S CLEARLY A NEGATIVE FOR MANY, MANY FAMILIES, BUT THERE'S
    ONE ELEMENT I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR OPINION ON.
    IT IS THE REFUSAL TO INCLUDE STATE AND LOCAL INCOME TAXES
    GOING FORWARD AS A DEDUCTION. IF YOU OUTLINE THE STATES THAT
    WOULD BE MOST IMPACTED, IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS STATES THAT VOTE
    DEMOCRAT. >> IT'S --
    >> AM I PARANOID? >> NO, YOU'RE NOT PARANOID.
    IT'S THE ONE THING THAT'S BEEN CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT ANY BILL
    THAT'S COME FORWARD. EVEN WHEN THE PRESIDENT'S
    INITIAL BILL WAS PRESENTED IN THE TWO OR THREE PAGES THAT HE
    PRESENTED, THERE WERE NO PAY-FORS SO IT WAS ALMOST A $3.5
    TO $4 TRILLION BILL. THERE WAS ONE AND THAT WAS THE
    ELIMINATION OF S.A.L.T. OR STATE AND LOCAL TAX DEDUCTIONS.
    THERE ARE OTHER HORRIBLE THINGS IN HERE, INCLUDING GETTING RID
    OF THE TAX CREDIT FOR HIRING VETERANS, FOR INSTANCE.
    THAT'S GONE. THERE'S SO MANY LITTLE -- THE
    TEACHER, YOU KNOW, BUYING EXTRA TOOLS FOR TEACHING IN CLASS,
    THAT WILL NO LONGER BE EXPENSED UNDER THIS BILL.
    THERE'S SO MANY LITTLE THINGS IN THIS BILL THAT MAKE IT IN MANY
    RESPECTS FOR ME IMMORAL, BUT I THINK THE DOUBLE TAXATION OF
    STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA, LIKE NEW YORK, LIKE NEW JERSEY, EVEN
    PENNSYLVANIA I THINK IS A FOCUS ON BLUE RATHER THAN ANYTHING
    ELSE. IT'S A VERY, VERY POLITICAL
    DOCUMENT. >> YOU HAVE NOW SAID THAT YOU
    THINK THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BETTER THAN 50% CHANCE OF RETAKING
    CONTROL OF THE HOUSE IN 2018. YOU HAVE STEVE BANNON OUT THERE
    RIGHT NOW LOUDLY SAYING -- TRYING TO RALLY REPUBLICANS BY
    SAYING IF THE DEMOCRATS TAKE CONTROL OF THE HOUSE, THAT WILL
    LEAD TO THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.
    JUST TALK ABOUT HOW THE POLITICS OF IMPEACHMENT WILL BECOME A
    CAMPAIGN ISSUE AND HOW DEMOCRATS SHOULD HANDLE THAT IF AS YOU
    MOVE INTO NEXT NOVEMBER. >> IT'S ALREADY AN ISSUE.
    WE'VE SEEN THE STEYER ADS. WE KNOW IN TERMS OF GENNING UP
    SUPPORT IN OUR BASE. I THINK THERE'S REAL CONCERN
    ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF OUR COUNTRY AND WHERE THE PRESIDENT
    HAS TAKEN US, NOT JUST IN TERMS OF OVERSEAS BUT DOMESTICALLY AS
    WELL. THE DESPERATION TO GET THIS TAX
    BILL PASSED AT ALL COSTS IS BECAUSE OF THE DONOR BASE.
    CHRIS COLLINS SAID IT FROM BUFFALO.
    WE'VE HAD OTHERS SAY IT AS WELL. IF THEY DON'T PASS THIS BILL,
    THEY'RE DONE. I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO THE
    ISSUE OF IMPEACHMENT, I LIKE THE TACT THAT ROBERT MUELLER IS
    DOING HIS JOB. HE'S TAKING IT WHERE IT LEADS.
    IF IT LEADS TO SOMEWHERE AND IT'S AN ISSUE THAT CAN BE
    PROSECUTED, THAT'S UP TO THEM TO DECIDE.
    I THINK EVERYONE DESERVES THEIR
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